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''Also, if we had a katakana orthography (not like I expect that to be easy) we might could appeal to the anime crowd. Just a thought.'' -- anon, from [[jbocre: Why Tengwar?]]
==  Minutes of the 2005 Annual Meeting of the Members of The Logical Language Group, Inc. ==


''(Here a lamer from 24.17.25.93 showed off his vocabulary.)''
The sixteenth Annual Meeting of the Members of The Logical Language


That is an awfully interesting idea. Might even be possible. How would consonant clusters be done, though? (Hell, how would any C not followed by V be done? And what do you do with the 'n' consonant symbol? Give it to n or m?) --[[jbocre: Jay Kominek|Jay]]
Group, Inc. was called to order on Tue, 15 Nov 2005 13:28:24 PST.


''Awfully fancyful people around here ;-) : Don't like Katakana as much as I'm fond of [[jbocre: Hiragana|Hiragana]] (Firakana)!  - But speaking honestly, for what *rational* reason should a syllabic alphabet like this, tailored for a language with a very special phonemic system like Japanese, be adjusted for Lojban? - But yes, it would be very, very nice to have it. So I was playing around a bit with Fontographer and a Hiragana font to maybe get some idea... Yet, it's horrible a task:''
It was conducted on the llg-members mailing list.


''E.g. we needed to modify characters for lb {c}, {l}, {f} and {x} - {l} maybe by adding a nigori to "r", {f} by using the "h", unless we don't take that for {x}. We'd have to invent some more diacritical marks beside "nigori" and "maru" (at least one for kind of "schwa" to indicate the syllable as being "vowelless" (i.e. being a consonant).''
It should be noted that this meeting was a bit procedurally odd:


''So, don't think it's impossible... (... for doing your Lojban poems in Hiragana calligraphy - let us fetch some ink, brush and paper...) -.aulun.''
votes were taken very fast, and by acclamation mostly. This is


----------
because we had a legal obligation to get some reports to the


You can use the Japanese people's double-kana tricks for writing fa, fi, fe, fo, for instance.
Virginia government, and we were running very late.


''How does this work?''
===  Roll Call ===


Try fu plus a small vowel kana.
Roll call was waived, as all members were believed to have valid


And as for Lojban {x}, I think the Japanese try to imitate this sound by putting a small tsu in front of a kana such as ha. So {xa} would be (small tsu) (ha).
e-mail addresses on the list.  A list of members who actually
 
participated (commented or voted) is as follows:
 
* [[jbocre: And Rosta|And Rosta]]
* [[User: Broca|Arnt Richard Johansen]]
 
* [[User:Bob LeChevalier|Bob LeChevalier]]
* Charles Hope
 
* Craig Daniel
* David Barton
 
* Gary Burgess
* Gregory Dyke
 
* [[jbocre: Jay Kominek|Jay Kominek]]
* [[jbocre: John Cowan|John Cowan]]
 
* [[User:xorxes|Jorge Llambias]]
* [[jbocre: Matt Arnold|Matt Arnold]] (made member during meeting)
 
* [[jbocre: Nora LeChevalier|Nora LeChevalier]]
* PaulFrancis O'Sullivan
 
* [[jbocre: Pierre Abbat|Pierre Abbat]]
* [[jbocre: Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]]
 
* Robin Turner
* [[jbocre: Theodore Reed|Theodore Reed]]
 
* Yann Le Du
 
===  Reading of Minutes ===
 
Deferred by providing a link for people to read at their leisure.
 
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=LLG%202004%20Annual%20Meeting%20Minutes
 
===  Officer's Reports ===
 
Accepted by acclamation.
 
The reports from the President and Vice President were be waived, having
 
nothing to report.
 
~pp~
 
Treasurer's Report
 
------------------
 
This is an amended copy of my report to the board Tue, 4 Oct 2005.
 
Main account balance: $2,264.80
 
Main account balance according to QuickBooks: $2,109.51
 
Still don't know where the extra $150 came from; should be able to
 
figure that out next quarter now that I have the documents in
 
question.
 
PayPal account balances at $590.63
 
That means we have a total of:
 
$2,855.43
 
In addition, the Treasurer has not missed a single quarterly report
 
this year.  One quarterly tax filing that was late has been paid for
 
out-of-pocket ($10).
 
IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION within a week, i.e. by Tue Nov 22 22:00:00
 
UTC 2005, the treasurer's report will be taken as accepted by the
 
membership.
 
~/pp~
 
===  Committee Reports ===
 
Accepted by acclamation.
 
~pp~
 
BPFK Report
 
-----------
 
We have completed the following checkpoints, representing about a
 
third of the language:
 
* BAI #1, Completed 16 Jun 2005
 
* Magic Words #1, Completed 11 Feb 2005.
 
* gadri #1, completed 25 Dec 2004 (Christmas present).
 
* Letterals #1, completed 17 March 2004.
 
* Aspect #1, completed 24 May 2004.
 
(see http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=BPFK+Checkpoints&bl )
 
We are currently mired in the UI checkpoint, mostly because of
 
near-total lack of activity on the part of the vast majority of the
 
commissioners.  We really, really need more active BPFK people, but
 
those people also need to be pretty skilled Lojbanists.  Ideas very
 
much welcomed.
 
IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION within a week, i.e. by Tue Nov 22 22:00:00
 
UTC 2005, the BPFK committee report will be taken as accepted by the
 
membership.
 
~/pp~
 
===  Election of New Members ===
 
The following new members were elected:
 
* Stephen Weeks
* Matt Arnold
 
===  Removal of Old Members ===
 
The following members were removed.
 
* Jordan DeLong
* Alexandra Miles-Lasseter
 
* Adam Raizen
* David Twery
 
===  Election of the Board ===
 
* Robin Lee Powell
* Bob LeChevalier
 
* Matt Arnold
* Jay Kominek
 
* Arnt Richard Johansen
 
===  Old Business ===
 
None.
 
===  New Business ===
 
The secretary called for discussion of how to revitalize the BPFK,
 
and/or new people to add to it.  Nothing came of it.
 
Robin Lee Powell was given a vote of thanks.

Revision as of 16:59, 4 November 2013

Minutes of the 2005 Annual Meeting of the Members of The Logical Language Group, Inc.

The sixteenth Annual Meeting of the Members of The Logical Language

Group, Inc. was called to order on Tue, 15 Nov 2005 13:28:24 PST.

It was conducted on the llg-members mailing list.

It should be noted that this meeting was a bit procedurally odd:

votes were taken very fast, and by acclamation mostly. This is

because we had a legal obligation to get some reports to the

Virginia government, and we were running very late.

Roll Call

Roll call was waived, as all members were believed to have valid

e-mail addresses on the list. A list of members who actually

participated (commented or voted) is as follows:

  • Craig Daniel
  • David Barton
  • Gary Burgess
  • Gregory Dyke
  • Yann Le Du

Reading of Minutes

Deferred by providing a link for people to read at their leisure.

http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=LLG%202004%20Annual%20Meeting%20Minutes

Officer's Reports

Accepted by acclamation.

The reports from the President and Vice President were be waived, having

nothing to report.

~pp~

Treasurer's Report

This is an amended copy of my report to the board Tue, 4 Oct 2005.

Main account balance: $2,264.80

Main account balance according to QuickBooks: $2,109.51

Still don't know where the extra $150 came from; should be able to

figure that out next quarter now that I have the documents in

question.

PayPal account balances at $590.63

That means we have a total of:

$2,855.43

In addition, the Treasurer has not missed a single quarterly report

this year. One quarterly tax filing that was late has been paid for

out-of-pocket ($10).

IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION within a week, i.e. by Tue Nov 22 22:00:00

UTC 2005, the treasurer's report will be taken as accepted by the

membership.

~/pp~

Committee Reports

Accepted by acclamation.

~pp~

BPFK Report

We have completed the following checkpoints, representing about a

third of the language:

  • BAI #1, Completed 16 Jun 2005
  • Magic Words #1, Completed 11 Feb 2005.
  • gadri #1, completed 25 Dec 2004 (Christmas present).
  • Letterals #1, completed 17 March 2004.
  • Aspect #1, completed 24 May 2004.

(see http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=BPFK+Checkpoints&bl )

We are currently mired in the UI checkpoint, mostly because of

near-total lack of activity on the part of the vast majority of the

commissioners. We really, really need more active BPFK people, but

those people also need to be pretty skilled Lojbanists. Ideas very

much welcomed.

IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION within a week, i.e. by Tue Nov 22 22:00:00

UTC 2005, the BPFK committee report will be taken as accepted by the

membership.

~/pp~

Election of New Members

The following new members were elected:

  • Stephen Weeks
  • Matt Arnold

Removal of Old Members

The following members were removed.

  • Jordan DeLong
  • Alexandra Miles-Lasseter
  • Adam Raizen
  • David Twery

Election of the Board

  • Robin Lee Powell
  • Bob LeChevalier
  • Matt Arnold
  • Jay Kominek
  • Arnt Richard Johansen

Old Business

None.

New Business

The secretary called for discussion of how to revitalize the BPFK,

and/or new people to add to it. Nothing came of it.

Robin Lee Powell was given a vote of thanks.

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