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=Discussion= | =Discussion= | ||
==General notes== | ==General notes== | ||
*Lee Min-Ji: | |||
*:Obviously Hangul is unsuited to be a Lojban orthography, but it does pose an interesting challenge. | |||
*Does anyone know about IKPA : Internationnal Korean Phonetic Alphabet ? Look at [http://www.scripta.kr/scripta2010/kr/proceedings/proc07v01_004.pdf this]. It can almost replace IPA, and certainly display all the lojban phonetic diversity. | *Does anyone know about IKPA : Internationnal Korean Phonetic Alphabet ? Look at [http://www.scripta.kr/scripta2010/kr/proceedings/proc07v01_004.pdf this]. It can almost replace IPA, and certainly display all the lojban phonetic diversity. | ||
**But we seem to lost the syllabic bloc feature, and that's I think where a work can be done to restore it, although IKPA wasn't though to be used this way. | **But we seem to lost the syllabic bloc feature, and that's I think where a work can be done to restore it, although IKPA wasn't though to be used this way. | ||
**la brabenvaxda'u balsoi: | **la brabenvaxda'u balsoi: | ||
**:I'm sure it is closer to a proper logic writing system for a logic language than every attempt ever made. Pei'pei | **:I'm sure it is closer to a proper logic writing system for a logic language than every attempt ever made. Pei'pei | ||
*A Hangul orthography is sheer foolishness, because Hangul doesn't work well for most languages except Korean. | *A Hangul orthography is sheer foolishness, because Hangul doesn't work well for most languages except Korean. | ||
**sanxiyn.: | |||
**:You're right in this, pe'i | |||
== Vowels == | == Vowels == |
Revision as of 08:28, 20 July 2014
Hangul orthography for Lojban.
Discussion
General notes
- Lee Min-Ji:
- Obviously Hangul is unsuited to be a Lojban orthography, but it does pose an interesting challenge.
- Does anyone know about IKPA : Internationnal Korean Phonetic Alphabet ? Look at this. It can almost replace IPA, and certainly display all the lojban phonetic diversity.
- But we seem to lost the syllabic bloc feature, and that's I think where a work can be done to restore it, although IKPA wasn't though to be used this way.
- la brabenvaxda'u balsoi:
- I'm sure it is closer to a proper logic writing system for a logic language than every attempt ever made. Pei'pei
- A Hangul orthography is sheer foolishness, because Hangul doesn't work well for most languages except Korean.
- sanxiyn.:
- You're right in this, pe'i
- sanxiyn.:
Vowels
<tab class=wikitable> a ㅏ e ㅔ i ㅣ o ㅗ u ㅜ </tab>
- The falling dipthongs are a problem, because there's no ii or uu. So is y.
- pne:
- What about ㅡ for y?
- sanxiyn:
- No. y is exact match of ㅓ.
- pne:
Consonants
- There is no character for initial b, c, d, g, j, l or z, though some characters that are used for sounds sot found in Lojban can be used for these purposes, like the "iu" series or the "ssang" series.
- sanxiyn.:
- Same is true for English, but there is nonetheless Korean orthography for it. Maybe we can imitate it.
- Also, it will be hard to fit in the . or the ' if it occurs in a syllable.
- sanxiyn.:
- Apostrophe ' must be ㅎ pe'i
- sanxiyn.:
- sanxiyn.: