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{CODE(wrap="1]][[jbocre: 18:40]] <vensa> btw: why is {ve'a}="small space" and {ve'i}="TINY space"? why not "medium" and "small"... this isn't mcdonalds! :P
[[jbocre: 18:40]] <Twey> WHAT HAPPEN !!
[[jbocre: 18:40]] <ksion> vensa: I'd say the opposite { mi jai se jai se bandu do fai(xipa) lonu do vi zvati kei faixire lonu catra lo cribe}
[[jbocre: 18:40]] <vensa> how do I SHOT WEB
[[jbocre: 18:40]] <selpa`i> vensa: u'isai
[[jbocre: 18:40]] <ksion> valsi ve'u
[[jbocre: 18:40]] <valsi> ve'u = location tense interval: a large region of space.
[[jbocre: 18:41]] <ksion> valsi ve'a
[[jbocre: 18:41]] <valsi> ve'a = location tense interval: a small/medium region of space.
[[jbocre: 18:41]] <kribacr> .i da punji le jbama
[[jbocre: 18:41]] <ksion> See, it's small/medium.
[[jbocre: 18:41]] <vensa> ksion: but xalbo just contradicted you. no?
[[jbocre: 18:41]] <ksion> vensa: yes.
[[jbocre: 18:41]] <@xalbo> .i da fi'o se xlali ma'a gasnu lo jbama
[[jbocre: 18:41]] <vensa> valsi ve'i
[[jbocre: 18:41]] <valsi> ve'i = location tense interval: a tiny region of space.
[[jbocre: 18:42]] <vensa> I still dont like the "tiny"
[[jbocre: 18:42]] <kribacr> Yours is way better. :P
[[jbocre: 18:42]] <kribacr> coi cmalu
[[jbocre: 18:42]] <kribacr> .yy. pinji la'a
[[jbocre: 18:43]] <@xalbo> yeah, need to fix the verbiage. All of those trios should be small/unmarked/large.
[[jbocre: 18:43]] <vensa> ve'i pinji bu'u la kribacr
[[jbocre: 18:43]] <kribacr> .ui
[[jbocre: 18:43]] <vensa> xalbo: iesai, will {za} and {ze'a} also be unmakred?
[[jbocre: 18:44]] <ksion> mi na da'i se jai cfipu la kribacr fai lonu spuda lu do mo li'u lu se pinji li'u kei u'i
[[jbocre: 18:44]] <@xalbo> Yes.
[[jbocre: 18:45]] <@xalbo> So only medium in that we're not saying it's large or small
[[jbocre: 18:45]] <vensa> .ie
[[jbocre: 18:45]] <vensa> si i'e
[[jbocre: 18:46]] <ksion> It's like that now, too.
[[jbocre: 18:46]] <UukGoblin> toljifyje'u
[[jbocre: 18:47]] <vensa> ksion. it isnt clear from the def
[[jbocre: 18:47]] <vensa> valsi za
[[jbocre: 18:47]] <valsi> za = time tense distance: medium distance in time.
[[jbocre: 18:47]] <ksion> u'isai Since when defs are clear? :)
[[jbocre: 18:47]] <vensa> doesnt say "unspecifiedD"
[[jbocre: 18:47]] <vensa> yeah... :(
[[jbocre: 18:48]] <vensa> xalbo: I cant find ZI or ZEhA in the BPFK sections, except a reference in here: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=BPFK+Section%3A+Tense
[[jbocre: 18:48]] <vensa> in {puza} it says "medium time" and not "unspecified" :(
[[jbocre: 18:49]] <@xalbo> Time distance. It indicates that the event is separated in time from the speaker or reference point. When tagging a sumti, the sumti specifies the time separation distance.
[[jbocre: 18:49]] <@xalbo> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=BPFK+Section:+Distance
[[jbocre: 18:50]] <vensa> that doesnt say "unspecified" either :(
[[jbocre: 18:51]] <vensa> it's really sad that the defs arent clear enough. I even made a special cmavo that explicitly specifies *unspecified* becuz I didnt understand the existing cmavo that way
[[jbocre: 18:51]] <vensa> valsi za'ai
[[jbocre: 18:51]] <valsi> za'ai = time tense distance: an unspecified distance in time
[[jbocre: 18:51]] <vensa> valsi ze'ai
[[jbocre: 18:51]] <valsi> ze'ai = time tense interval: an unspecified amount of time
[[jbocre: 18:51]] == stat_ [[jbocre: stat@2402:f000:5:c901:c81f:1d7:a978:805f]] has joined #lojban
[[jbocre: 18:52]] <@xalbo> it doesn't have to say unspecified; it just doesn't specify.
[[jbocre: 18:52]] <vensa> it *specifies* MEDIUM
[[jbocre: 18:53]] <@xalbo> The byfy page doesn't.
[[jbocre: 18:53]] <@xalbo> "Proposed definition definition differs from CLL and ma'oste in that "medium" has been removed, so that a basic form is available when the size of the interval is not particularly significant."
[[jbocre: 18:53]] <vensa> hehe
[[jbocre: 18:53]] <vensa> yeah I just caught sight of that note :)
[[jbocre: 18:54]] <vensa> ok
[[jbocre: 18:54]] <vensa> I see this section isnt even red... :(
[[jbocre: 18:55]] <vensa> so it's far from being accepted?
[[jbocre: 18:57]] <@xalbo> I guess so. Looks pretty good, though.
[[jbocre: 18:59]] <vensa> is the section complete? y isnt it up for votes?
[[jbocre: 18:59]] <@xalbo> I don't know.{CODE}

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