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The default order in which topics are presented in the CLL, ''the'' comprehensive Lojban manual/textbook/guide, seems a bit illogical, when first encountered by a beginner. This sparked, in #lojban, a discussion about a more beginner-friendly order, which resembles: | The default order in which topics are presented in the CLL, ''the'' comprehensive Lojban manual/textbook/guide, seems a bit illogical, when first encountered by a beginner. This sparked, in #lojban, a discussion about a more beginner-friendly order, which resembles: | ||
* [ | * [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-about.html Chapter 1] (Legal stuff, skippable) | ||
* [ | * [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-tour.html Chapter 2] | ||
* [ | * [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-phonology.html Chapter 3] | ||
* [ | * [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-morphology.html Chapter 4] | ||
* [ | * [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-attitudinals.html Chapter 13.1-13.10] | ||
* [ | * [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-sumti.html Chapter 6] (beware of 6.12 (dotside), and 6.2-6.9 (xorlo)) | ||
* [ | * [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-anaphoric-cmavo.html Chapter 7] | ||
* [ | * [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-selbri.html Chapter 5.1-5.7] | ||
* [ | * [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-letterals.html Chapter 17.1-17.12] | ||
* [ | * [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-structure.html Chapter 19] (beware of 19.13 (erasure)) | ||
* [ | * [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/section-evidentials.html Chapter 13.11-13.16] | ||
* [ | * [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-abstractions.html Chapter 11] | ||
* [ | * [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-relative-clauses.html Chapter 8] | ||
* [ | * [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-sumti-tcita.html Chapter 9] | ||
* [ | * [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-tenses.html Chapter 10] | ||
* [ | * [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-connectives.html Chapter 14] | ||
* [ | * [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-negation.html Chapter 15] | ||
* [ | * [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/section-me-selbri.html Chapter 5.10-5.20] | ||
* [ | * [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-lujvo.html Chapter 12] | ||
* [ | * [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-quantifiers.html Chapter 16] (Logical quantifiers, difficult material) | ||
* [ | * [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/section-character-codes.html Chapter 17.13-17.20] | ||
* ''Not at all necessary'' [ | * ''Not at all necessary'' [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-mekso.html Chapter 18] (mekso - may be dropped from the language) | ||
* ''Useful'' [ | * ''Useful'' [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-catalogue.html Chapter 20] (selma'o liste) | ||
* ''Not for the eyes of all'' [ | * ''Not for the eyes of all'' [https://lojban.org/publications/cll/cll_v1.1_xhtml-section-chunks/chapter-grammars.html Chapter 21] (Formal grammars) | ||
Points containing the mention ''beware'' or ''difficult'' should be read with a grain of salt; investing some time on [[Lojban IRC|Lojban's IRC]] will certainly clear things up, not to mention that Lojbanist irci give lessons in #ckule and (especially in the beginning to work on pronunciation) by means of Mumble, Ventrilo and Skype. | Points containing the mention ''beware'' or ''difficult'' should be read with a grain of salt; investing some time on [[Lojban IRC|Lojban's IRC]] will certainly clear things up, not to mention that Lojbanist irci give lessons in #ckule and (especially in the beginning to work on pronunciation) by means of Mumble, Ventrilo and Skype. |
Latest revision as of 14:51, 11 June 2018
The default order in which topics are presented in the CLL, the comprehensive Lojban manual/textbook/guide, seems a bit illogical, when first encountered by a beginner. This sparked, in #lojban, a discussion about a more beginner-friendly order, which resembles:
- Chapter 13.1-13.10
- Chapter 6 (beware of 6.12 (dotside), and 6.2-6.9 (xorlo))
- Chapter 17.1-17.12
- Chapter 19 (beware of 19.13 (erasure))
- Chapter 12
- Chapter 16 (Logical quantifiers, difficult material)
- Chapter 17.13-17.20
- Not at all necessary Chapter 18 (mekso - may be dropped from the language)
- Useful Chapter 20 (selma'o liste)
- Not for the eyes of all Chapter 21 (Formal grammars)
Points containing the mention beware or difficult should be read with a grain of salt; investing some time on Lojban's IRC will certainly clear things up, not to mention that Lojbanist irci give lessons in #ckule and (especially in the beginning to work on pronunciation) by means of Mumble, Ventrilo and Skype.