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=== cmavo: di'i (TAhE) ===


==== Proposed Definition ====
Regularly. Subjective time tense. Indicates that the event occurs regularly over a certain interval. When tagging a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval.


=== cmavo: di'i (TAhE) ===
==== Proposed Tag ====
fi'o jai ze'a dikni


==== Proposed Definition ====
==== See Also ====
 
* {na'o}
regularly -- A subjective time tense modifier indicating a regular interval.
* {ru'i}
 
* {ta'e}
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
====  See Also ====
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====


==== Proposed Keywords ====
* regularly
* regularly
* steadily
* steadily


==== Usage Examples ====
==== Usage Examples ====
 
;.i ku'i mi di'i malsenva .oi:''However, I regularly have crappy dreams... ugh.''
;.i ku'i mi di'i malsenva .oi:"However, I regularly have crappy dreams... ugh."
 
====  Notes ====


====  Issues ====
;mi di'i lo prula'i nanca cu xadzenzu'e pa roi ro detydei:''For the last year, I regularly exercised once per day.''


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=== cmavo: di'inai (TAhE*) ===
==== Issues ====


====  Proposed Definition ====


irregularly -- A subjective time tense modifier indicating an irregular interval.
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=== cmavo: di'inai (TAhE*) ===


==== Proposed Tag ====
==== Proposed Definition ====
Irregularly. Subjective time tense. Indicates that the event occurs irregularly over a certain interval. When tagging a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval.


==== See Also ====
==== Proposed Tag ====
fi'o jai ze'a naldikni


==== Proposed Keywords ====
==== See Also ====
* {di'i}
* {na'o}
* {ru'i}
* {ta'e}


==== Proposed Keywords ====
* irregularly
* irregularly
* sporatically
====  Usage Examples ====
;mi di'i nai cusku .i ku'i no da cusku lo se cinri se spuda:"I seldom speak, but nobody is saying anything interesting to respond to."
(Former translation was: "I speak irregularly, but nobody says anything interesting to which I would respond.")
====  Notes ====


==== Issues ====
==== Usage Examples ====
;lo smani cu di'i nai troci lo ka cpacu lo narge:''The monkey irregularly attempted to obtain the nuts.''


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==== Notes ====




=== cmavo: na'o (TAhE) ===
==== Issues ====
I don't think this needs a separate definition. Under the regularized meaning of {nai} with tenses, the meaning is self-explanatory. It should be listed under NAI, not under TAhE.


====  Proposed Definition ====
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=== cmavo: na'o (TAhE) ===


typically -- A subjective time tense modifier indicating a typical interval.
==== Proposed Definition ====
Typically. Subjective time tense. Indicates that the event is typical. When tagging a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval during which the typical event occurs.  


==== Proposed Tag ====
==== Proposed Tag ====
 
fi'o jai ze'a cafne
==== See Also ====
==== See Also ====
 
* {di'i}
====  Proposed Keywords ====
* {ru'i}
* {ta'e}


==== Proposed Keywords ====
* typically
* typically
* ordinarily
* ordinarily
* usually
* usually


==== Usage Examples ====
==== Usage Examples ====
 
;.i a'u mi na'o nelci lo skefi'a:"(With interest:) I typically like science-fiction."
;.i a'u mi na'o nelci lo skefi'a:"(With interest:) I typically like science-fiction."
;.i xu do na'o djica le nu sorpa'i:"Do you typically desire polyamity?"
;.i xu do na'o djica le nu sorpa'i:"Do you typically desire polyamity?"
;.i ta'o mi na'o se cmene zo teneb .a zo tenen lo jbopre:"By the way, I am typically called "teneb" or "tenen" by Lojbanists."
;.i ta'o mi na'o se cmene zo teneb .a zo tenen lo jbopre:"By the way, I am typically called "teneb" or "tenen" by Lojbanists."


==== Notes ====
==== Notes ====


====  Issues ====


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=== cmavo: na'onai (TAhE*) ===
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=== cmavo: na'onai (TAhE*) ===


==== Proposed Definition ====
==== Proposed Definition ====
Atypically. Subjective time tense. Indicates that the event is atypical over a certain interval. When taggin a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval.
==== Proposed Tag ====
fi'o jai ze'a nalcafne
==== See Also ====


atypically -- A subjective time tense modifier indicating an atypical interval.
====  Proposed Tag ====
====  See Also ====
====  Proposed Keywords ====


==== Proposed Keywords ====
* oddly
* oddly
* unusually
* unusually
* atypically
* atypically


==== Usage Examples ====
==== Usage Examples ====
;.i mi na'o nai birti:''I'm rarely sure.''


;.i mi na'o nai birti:"I'm typically unsure."
==== Notes ====


(Literally "I'm atypically sure.", but this doesn't seem to convey the same meaning in English.)


==== Notes ====
==== Issues ====
I don't think this needs a separate definition. Under the regularized meaning of {nai} with tenses, the meaning is self-explanatory. It should be listed under NAI, not under TAhE.


====  Issues ====
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=== cmavo: ru'i (TAhE) ===


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==== Proposed Definition ====
Continuously. Subjective time tense. Indicates that the event occurs continuously over a certain interval. When taggin a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval.


==== Proposed Tag ====
fi'o se ranji


===  cmavo: ru'i (TAhE) ===
==== See Also ====
 
* {di'i}
==== Proposed Definition ====
* {na'o}
 
* {ta'e}
continuously -- A subjective time tense modifier indicating a continuous interval.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
====  See Also ====
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====


==== Proposed Keywords ====
* continuously
* continuously
* over and over
* over and over
* all the time
* all the time


==== Usage Examples ====
==== Usage Examples ====
 
;.i .oi lo li'i mi ru'i jbobau ctuca cu se jalge lo nu mi ru'i jdika lo ka glico certu:''Ugh! Constantly teaching Lojban is what's causing my continuous decline in English proficiency.''
;.i.oi lo li'i mi ru'i cilre fi la lojban. ku se jalge lo nu mi ru'i jdika lo ka mi glico certu:"Ugh! Constantly teaching Lojban is what's causing my continuous decline in English proficiency."


==== Notes ====
==== Notes ====


====  Issues ====


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==== Issues ====




=== cmavo: ru'inai (TAhE*) ===
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=== cmavo: ru'inai (TAhE*) ===


==== Proposed Definition ====
==== Proposed Definition ====
Occasionally. Subjective time tense. Indicates that the event occurs occasionally over a certain interval. When taggin a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval.


occasionally -- A subjective time tense modifier indicating an occasional interval.
==== Proposed Tag ====
fi'o se nalra'i


==== Proposed Tag ====
==== See Also ====
 
* {di'i}
====  See Also ====
* {na'o}
 
* {ta'e}
====  Proposed Keywords ====


==== Proposed Keywords ====
* occasionally
* occasionally
* now and then
* now and then
* once and a while
* once and a while
* from time to time
* from time to time
* sometimes
* sometimes
* sporadically


==== Usage Examples ====
==== Usage Examples ====
 
;.i mi ru'i nai jundi:''I pay attention sporadically.''
;.i mi ru'i nai je'u jundi:"I really am occasionally paying attention."
 
(Former translation:"Truthfully, I'm occasionally paying attention.")
 
====  Notes ====
 
====  Issues ====


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==== Notes ====




=== cmavo: ta'e (TAhE) ===
==== Issues ====
I don't think this needs a separate definition. Under the regularized meaning of {nai} with tenses, the meaning is self-explanatory. It should be listed under NAI, not under TAhE.


====  Proposed Definition ====
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=== cmavo: ta'e (TAhE) ===


habitually -- A subjective time tense modifier indicating a habitual interval.
==== Proposed Definition ====
Habitually. Subjective time tense. Indicates that the event occurs habitually over a certain interval. When taggin a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval.


==== Proposed Tag ====
==== Proposed Tag ====
fi'o jai ze'a tcaci


==== See Also ====
==== See Also ====
 
* {di'i}
====  Proposed Keywords ====
* {na'o}
* {ru'i}


==== Proposed Keywords ====
* habitually
* habitually
* habit
* habit
* out of habit
* out of habit


==== Usage Examples ====
==== Usage Examples ====
 
;.i .ai mi ba ta'e snaveigau lo mi selsku ca lo nu cadzu:"I intend to habitually record my utterances during my walks."
;.i .ai mi ba ta'e vreji minji lojbo bo bacru ca le nu cadzu:"I intend to habitually record my blatherings during my walks."


(This one was difficult to translate directly, so this is extremely glossed.)
==== Notes ====


====  Notes ====


==== Issues ====
==== Issues ====
The sense of "habit" is commonly ignored in usage in favor of a more general word indicating that the event is common/normal/ordinary. Otherwise it would make little sense to use it for events that don't involve an agent. The difference between {ta'e}'s usage and the intended meaning of {na'o} is almost undistinguishable as things stand. Current usage has {ta'e} as {fi'o jai ze'a fadni} and {na'o} is almost never used.


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=== cmavo: ta'enai (TAhE*) ===


==== Proposed Definition ====
Non-habitually. Subjective time tense. Indicates that the event occurs non-habitually over a certain interval. When taggin a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval.


=== cmavo: ta'enai (TAhE*) ===
==== Proposed Tag ====
fi'o jai ze'a naltcaci


==== Proposed Definition ====
==== See Also ====
 
* {di'i}
non-habitually -- A subjective time tense modifier indicating a non-habitual interval.
* {na'o}
 
* {ru'i}
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
====  See Also ====
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====


==== Proposed Keywords ====
* non-habitually
* non-habitually


==== Usage Examples ====
==== Usage Examples ====
 
;.i mi ta'e nai na'e morji fi le selsne be mi gi'a na senva:"I'm not in the habit of misremembering my dreams or not dreaming at all."
;.i mi ta'e nai na'e morji fi le selsne be mi gi'a na senva:"I'm not in the habit of misremembering my dreams or not dreaming at all."


==== Notes ====
==== Notes ====


====  Issues ====


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==== Issues ====
I don't think this needs a separate definition. Under the regularized meaning of {nai} with tenses, the meaning is self-explanatory. It should be listed under NAI, not under TAhE.


=== General Section Issues ===
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The question has been brought up, "What do these mean as tcita?". Our best guess so far has been the time during which the interval takes place. {.i broda ta'e lo brode} is {.i ta'e broda ca lo brode} (best I can explain). Note, this has actually NOT been covered in CLL. It does not state in Chapter 10, nor anywhere else in the book that I've found, that TAhE can actually be used as a tcita (it can, says machine grammar) or what it means semantically. - lindar


The question has been brought up, "What do these mean as tcita?". Our best guess so far has been the time during which the interval takes place. {.i broda ta'e lo brode} is {.i ta'e broda ca lo brode} (best I can explain). Note, this has actually NOT been covered in CLL. It does not state in Chapter 10, nor anywhere else in the book that I've found, that TAhE can actually be used as a tcita (it can, says machine grammar) or what it means semantically. - lindar
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cmavo: di'i (TAhE)

Proposed Definition

Regularly. Subjective time tense. Indicates that the event occurs regularly over a certain interval. When tagging a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval.

Proposed Tag

fi'o jai ze'a dikni

See Also

  • {na'o}
  • {ru'i}
  • {ta'e}

Proposed Keywords

  • regularly
  • steadily

Usage Examples

.i ku'i mi di'i malsenva .oi
However, I regularly have crappy dreams... ugh.
mi di'i lo prula'i nanca cu xadzenzu'e pa roi ro detydei
For the last year, I regularly exercised once per day.

Notes

Issues

cmavo: di'inai (TAhE*)

Proposed Definition

Irregularly. Subjective time tense. Indicates that the event occurs irregularly over a certain interval. When tagging a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval.

Proposed Tag

fi'o jai ze'a naldikni

See Also

  • {di'i}
  • {na'o}
  • {ru'i}
  • {ta'e}

Proposed Keywords

  • irregularly

Usage Examples

lo smani cu di'i nai troci lo ka cpacu lo narge
The monkey irregularly attempted to obtain the nuts.

Notes

Issues

I don't think this needs a separate definition. Under the regularized meaning of {nai} with tenses, the meaning is self-explanatory. It should be listed under NAI, not under TAhE.


cmavo: na'o (TAhE)

Proposed Definition

Typically. Subjective time tense. Indicates that the event is typical. When tagging a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval during which the typical event occurs.

Proposed Tag

fi'o jai ze'a cafne

See Also

  • {di'i}
  • {ru'i}
  • {ta'e}

Proposed Keywords

  • typically
  • ordinarily
  • usually

Usage Examples

.i a'u mi na'o nelci lo skefi'a
"(With interest:) I typically like science-fiction."
.i xu do na'o djica le nu sorpa'i
"Do you typically desire polyamity?"
.i ta'o mi na'o se cmene zo teneb .a zo tenen lo jbopre
"By the way, I am typically called "teneb" or "tenen" by Lojbanists."

Notes

Issues

cmavo: na'onai (TAhE*)

Proposed Definition

Atypically. Subjective time tense. Indicates that the event is atypical over a certain interval. When taggin a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval.

Proposed Tag

fi'o jai ze'a nalcafne

See Also

Proposed Keywords

  • oddly
  • unusually
  • atypically

Usage Examples

.i mi na'o nai birti
I'm rarely sure.

Notes

Issues

I don't think this needs a separate definition. Under the regularized meaning of {nai} with tenses, the meaning is self-explanatory. It should be listed under NAI, not under TAhE.


cmavo: ru'i (TAhE)

Proposed Definition

Continuously. Subjective time tense. Indicates that the event occurs continuously over a certain interval. When taggin a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval.

Proposed Tag

fi'o se ranji

See Also

  • {di'i}
  • {na'o}
  • {ta'e}

Proposed Keywords

  • continuously
  • over and over
  • all the time

Usage Examples

.i .oi lo li'i mi ru'i jbobau ctuca cu se jalge lo nu mi ru'i jdika lo ka glico certu
Ugh! Constantly teaching Lojban is what's causing my continuous decline in English proficiency.

Notes

Issues

cmavo: ru'inai (TAhE*)

Proposed Definition

Occasionally. Subjective time tense. Indicates that the event occurs occasionally over a certain interval. When taggin a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval.

Proposed Tag

fi'o se nalra'i

See Also

  • {di'i}
  • {na'o}
  • {ta'e}

Proposed Keywords

  • occasionally
  • now and then
  • once and a while
  • from time to time
  • sometimes
  • sporadically

Usage Examples

.i mi ru'i nai jundi
I pay attention sporadically.

Notes

Issues

I don't think this needs a separate definition. Under the regularized meaning of {nai} with tenses, the meaning is self-explanatory. It should be listed under NAI, not under TAhE.


cmavo: ta'e (TAhE)

Proposed Definition

Habitually. Subjective time tense. Indicates that the event occurs habitually over a certain interval. When taggin a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval.

Proposed Tag

fi'o jai ze'a tcaci

See Also

  • {di'i}
  • {na'o}
  • {ru'i}

Proposed Keywords

  • habitually
  • habit
  • out of habit

Usage Examples

.i .ai mi ba ta'e snaveigau lo mi selsku ca lo nu cadzu
"I intend to habitually record my utterances during my walks."

Notes

Issues

The sense of "habit" is commonly ignored in usage in favor of a more general word indicating that the event is common/normal/ordinary. Otherwise it would make little sense to use it for events that don't involve an agent. The difference between {ta'e}'s usage and the intended meaning of {na'o} is almost undistinguishable as things stand. Current usage has {ta'e} as {fi'o jai ze'a fadni} and {na'o} is almost never used.


cmavo: ta'enai (TAhE*)

Proposed Definition

Non-habitually. Subjective time tense. Indicates that the event occurs non-habitually over a certain interval. When taggin a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval.

Proposed Tag

fi'o jai ze'a naltcaci

See Also

  • {di'i}
  • {na'o}
  • {ru'i}

Proposed Keywords

  • non-habitually

Usage Examples

.i mi ta'e nai na'e morji fi le selsne be mi gi'a na senva
"I'm not in the habit of misremembering my dreams or not dreaming at all."

Notes

Issues

I don't think this needs a separate definition. Under the regularized meaning of {nai} with tenses, the meaning is self-explanatory. It should be listed under NAI, not under TAhE.


General Section Issues

The question has been brought up, "What do these mean as tcita?". Our best guess so far has been the time during which the interval takes place. {.i broda ta'e lo brode} is {.i ta'e broda ca lo brode} (best I can explain). Note, this has actually NOT been covered in CLL. It does not state in Chapter 10, nor anywhere else in the book that I've found, that TAhE can actually be used as a tcita (it can, says machine grammar) or what it means semantically. - lindar

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