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=== cmavo: re'u (ROI) === | |||
==== Proposed Definition ==== | |||
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Ordinal tense. Converts a number to an objectively quantified ordinal tense interval modifier, indicating that the event takes place for the ''n''-th time. When tagging a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval in which the repetitions occur. | Ordinal tense. Converts a number to an objectively quantified ordinal tense interval modifier, indicating that the event takes place for the ''n''-th time. When tagging a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval in which the repetitions occur. | ||
==== | ==== Proposed Tag ==== | ||
fi'o jai ze'a krefu be fi li ''number'' | |||
==== | ==== See Also ==== | ||
* {roi} | |||
* {krefu} | |||
==== Proposed Keywords ==== | |||
* for the nth time. | * for the nth time. | ||
==== | ==== Usage Examples ==== | ||
;.i mi re re'u troci lo ka co'a sipna:''For the second time, I try to fall asleep.'' | |||
;.i | |||
;. | ;.a'o do pu zi ro re'u darxi lo mensi be do:''I hope this was the last time you hit your sister.'' | ||
;mi pa re'u lo mi nunji'e cu prane lo ka gleki:''For the first time in my life I am perfectly happy.'' | |||
==== Notes ==== | |||
* http://nuzban.wiw.org/archive/9612/msg00006.html | * http://nuzban.wiw.org/archive/9612/msg00006.html | ||
** Summary: re'u is semantically related to the ZAhO series, in that it specifies a phase of the event. (This discussion is suggestive of calling re'u an ''aspect'', and not a tense.) | ** Summary: re'u is semantically related to the ZAhO series, in that it specifies a phase of the event. (This discussion is suggestive of calling re'u an ''aspect'', and not a tense.) | ||
* [[re'u]] (Lojban wiki page) | |||
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** Summary: za'u re'u means "not for the first time", so it could be used for some senses of "again". | ** Summary: za'u re'u means "not for the first time", so it could be used for some senses of "again". | ||
==== | ==== Issues ==== | ||
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=== cmavo: roi (ROI) === | |||
==== Proposed Definition ==== | |||
Quantified tense. Converts a number to an objectively quantified tense interval modifier, indicating that the event takes place ''n'' times. When tagging a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval in which the repetitions occur. | Quantified tense. Converts a number to an objectively quantified tense interval modifier, indicating that the event takes place ''n'' times. When tagging a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval in which the repetitions occur. | ||
==== | ==== Proposed Tag ==== | ||
ca ''number'' da poi ke'a cabna ''sumti'' // fi'o jai ze'a rapli be li ''number'' | |||
==== | ==== See Also ==== | ||
* {re'u} | |||
* {rapli} | |||
==== Proposed Keywords ==== | |||
* times | * times | ||
* n times | * n times | ||
==== | ==== Usage Examples ==== | ||
;mi so'i roi citka lo xarju rectu:''I eat pork many times.'' | |||
; | ;mi no roi tcidu fi lo nuzykarni:''I never read newspapers.'' | ||
;mi | ;mi curmi lo nu do pilno lo skami pa roi ro zeldei:''I allow you to use the computer once each Sunday.'' | ||
==== Notes ==== | |||
* http://www.lojban.org/lists/jboske/msg00218.html | * http://www.lojban.org/lists/jboske/msg00218.html | ||
** Summary: ROI is a sumti tcita, too. The sumti specifies which time interval the repetitions occur. | ** Summary: ROI is a sumti tcita, too. The sumti specifies which time interval the repetitions occur. | ||
** [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/browse_thread/thread/cd0dec4182f0cb86 Here, Robin agrees.] | |||
==== Issues ==== | |||
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=== General Section Issues === | |||
By convention, tagged sumti without quantification (the new definition of lo dispenses with the notion of implicit quantification) are taken to refer to single instances. E.g. ''mu roi lo cacra'' is taken to mean "five times per hour". | By convention, tagged sumti without quantification (the new definition of lo dispenses with the notion of implicit quantification) are taken to refer to single instances. E.g. ''mu roi lo cacra'' is taken to mean "five times per hour". | ||
The meaning of tagged sumti with ROI, previously undescribed, has been explicitly laid out. | The meaning of tagged sumti with ROI, previously undescribed, has been explicitly laid out. | ||
=== | === mi djica lo panre be zo si'e poi srana lo temci === | ||
.i zo roi cu te kancu gi'e nai parbi .i mi djica lo nu cusku le | |||
parbi da poi gasnu vau le srana temci | |||
== Poll == | |||
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Latest revision as of 23:31, 3 April 2020
- This page is imported from version 28 of the page BPFK Section: Numeric Tense from the lojban Tiki.
cmavo: re'u (ROI)
Proposed Definition
Ordinal tense. Converts a number to an objectively quantified ordinal tense interval modifier, indicating that the event takes place for the n-th time. When tagging a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval in which the repetitions occur.
Proposed Tag
fi'o jai ze'a krefu be fi li number
See Also
- {roi}
- {krefu}
Proposed Keywords
- for the nth time.
Usage Examples
- .i mi re re'u troci lo ka co'a sipna
- For the second time, I try to fall asleep.
- .a'o do pu zi ro re'u darxi lo mensi be do
- I hope this was the last time you hit your sister.
- mi pa re'u lo mi nunji'e cu prane lo ka gleki
- For the first time in my life I am perfectly happy.
Notes
- http://nuzban.wiw.org/archive/9612/msg00006.html
- Summary: re'u is semantically related to the ZAhO series, in that it specifies a phase of the event. (This discussion is suggestive of calling re'u an aspect, and not a tense.)
- re'u (Lojban wiki page)
- Summary: za'u re'u means "not for the first time", so it could be used for some senses of "again".
Issues
cmavo: roi (ROI)
Proposed Definition
Quantified tense. Converts a number to an objectively quantified tense interval modifier, indicating that the event takes place n times. When tagging a sumti, the sumti specifies the interval in which the repetitions occur.
Proposed Tag
ca number da poi ke'a cabna sumti // fi'o jai ze'a rapli be li number
See Also
- {re'u}
- {rapli}
Proposed Keywords
- times
- n times
Usage Examples
- mi so'i roi citka lo xarju rectu
- I eat pork many times.
- mi no roi tcidu fi lo nuzykarni
- I never read newspapers.
- mi curmi lo nu do pilno lo skami pa roi ro zeldei
- I allow you to use the computer once each Sunday.
Notes
- http://www.lojban.org/lists/jboske/msg00218.html
- Summary: ROI is a sumti tcita, too. The sumti specifies which time interval the repetitions occur.
- Here, Robin agrees.
Issues
General Section Issues
By convention, tagged sumti without quantification (the new definition of lo dispenses with the notion of implicit quantification) are taken to refer to single instances. E.g. mu roi lo cacra is taken to mean "five times per hour".
The meaning of tagged sumti with ROI, previously undescribed, has been explicitly laid out.
mi djica lo panre be zo si'e poi srana lo temci
.i zo roi cu te kancu gi'e nai parbi .i mi djica lo nu cusku le parbi da poi gasnu vau le srana temci