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Something to the tune of: (Very quick, please correct) gets the spirit of All Your Base.
===  cmavo bi'i (BIhI) ===


Alpha are I and the Omega,
====  Proposed Definition ====


are first and last,
unordered interval -- non-logical interval connective: unordered between ... and ... --


the Beginning am and the End.
====  Proposed Tag ====


?
====  See Also ====


?
====  Proposed Keywords ====


?
* between


*I don't know if I should try to keep the...odd grammar of this poem or find the accurate one and translate that...
====  Usage Examples ====


CAPTAIN: What happen?
-stidi le nu zo no bi'i zo vai basti loi namcu bu<br />


LE JATNA: ma fasnu
-.i namcu bu ki'a<br />


COMPUTER: This is an emergency, Level 3 alert.
-.i namcu lerfu pe'i<br />


LE SKAMI: ri ckape gi'e se ke te kajde merli zo'e li ci
-la'edi'u drani<br />


CREWMEMBER 1: Somebody set up us the bomb.
''-suggest that zero through F be substituted for the number signs''<br />


LE PAMEI SE BENDE: zo'e dunda mi'o le jbama
''-number signs?''<br />


CAPTAIN: Take off every "Zig." You know what you doing.
''-I think he meant "digits"''<br />


LE JATNA: ko vimcu ro la .zig. i do djuno lo du'u do zukte makau
''-that's right''


CREWMEMBER 2: Roger!
;la firgrup. sujgri lu'i li no bi'i ci le kaxycauvlina:"The Viergruppe is a group on the set [[jbocre: 0..3]] with exclusive-or as the operation."


LE REMEI SE BENDE: je'e
;ni'oni'o di'e valsi co se cusku la moces. ro la .isra,EL. ze'o la .iarDEN. ne'i le xa'urcau po'u la .araVAT. te'e la suf. bu'u la paRAN. bi'i ke la toFEL. joi la lyVAN. joi la xatseROT. joi la diza'AV.:"These are the words which Moses said to all Israel beyond the Jordan in the uninhabited area which is Aravah on the border of Suph between Pa'ran and Tophel, Lavan, Chatserot, and Di Zahav."


CREWMEMBER 1: We get signal!
====  Notes ====


LE PAMEI SE BENDE: ma'a cpacu le sinxa
====  Isssues ====


CAPTAIN: (in shock) What!
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LE JATNA: ke'o


CATS: ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
===  cmavo bi'o (BIhI) ===


LA SUZRELAT: ro le do pa zbepi cu tutra mi'a
====  Proposed Definition ====


CATS: YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE MAKE YOUR TIME. HA HA HA!!
ordered interval -- non-logical interval connective: ordered from ... to ... --


LA SUZRELAT: do ponse no ni renvi lakne ko zbasu lo do temci
====  Proposed Tag ====


CAPTAIN: (staring at screen in horror) What you say!!
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LE JATNA: ma do se ba'usku
====  Proposed Keywords ====


CREWMEMBER 2: Captain!
* from ... to


LE REMEI SE BENDE: doi jatna
====  Usage Examples ====


CAPTAIN: (slowly, with great deliberation) ...Move "Zig." For great justice!
;di'e pagbu la'elu lei xelso ranmi li'u pefi'e la nikos.tsiforos. noi xelso xamfinti je pilno be le no'e jikri'i skutra bei lenu larsku zi'ene la 1900nan bi'o la 1970nan:"This is part of "Greek Myths" by Nikos Tsiforos, a Greek humorist and slang devotee from 1900 to 1970."


LE JATNA: ko bevri la .zig. te zu'e nu banli bisli po'o  
;mi ca'o la 1999nan. bi'o la 2001nan. se jibri vi le merko:"From 1999 to 2001 I had a job in America."


*[[User:skorgu|Skorgu]]:
;tcacyselsku fa lu la mrfis. bi'o la MANti,on li'u noi se smuni lu le cmana bi'o le xamsi li'u:"The saying is 'From Murphy to Manteo', which means 'From the mountain to the sea'."
*:I stole the script off of [http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=ALL%20YOUR%20BASE%20ARE%20BELONG%20TO%20US Everything2] and edited out most everything that isn't dialogue.
 
====  Notes ====
 
====  Issues ====
 
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===  cmavo mi'i (BIhI) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
center-range -- non-logical interval connective: ordered components: ... center, ... range surrounding center --
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
====  See Also ====
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
;le bamjakne ba darxi la moskov. mi'i lo ki'otre be li panono:"The missile will hit within 100 kilometers of Moscow."
 
;le teilr. zei sujypoi pe lo dugri fancu cu jbize'a ve'a li pa ga'omi'i pa:"The Taylor series of the logarithm function converges within 1 of 1, closed at the center."
 
====  Notes ====
 
====  Issues ====
 
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===  cmavo ga'o (GAhO) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
Inclusive interval. When used before ''bi'o'' or ''bi'i'', it indicates that the beginning of the interval is closed. When used after ''bi'o'' or ''bi'i'', it indicates that the end of the interval is closed. When used before ''mi'i'', it indicates that the center of the interval is closed. When used after ''mi'i'', it indicates that the outside of the interval is closed.
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
====  See Also ====
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
.u'i mi pu zi krixa le ka gerku ga'o le mi mlatu<br />
 
Yay, I just yelled out like a dog or my cat.<br />
 
(I have no idea if this is correct, this is the only usage I could find.)
 
====  Notes ====
 
====  Issues ====
 
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===  cmavo ke'i (GAhO) ===
 
====  Proposed Definition ====
 
exclusive interval -- open interval bracket marker; modifies intervals in non-logical connectives; exclude boundaries --
 
====  Proposed Tag ====
 
====  See Also ====
 
====  Proposed Keywords ====
 
====  Usage Examples ====
 
mi ciska lu abu sy li'u le xy ke'i bi'i ke'i le obu<br />
 
<br />
 
ke'i lenu mi cilre fo la velcli befi la lojban. bei loi co'a cilre cu mulno .ije mi ca'oca troci lenu mi jimpe la lojban. <br />
 
<br />
 
mi citka lo ke clani je desku je pelxu ke'i cidja<br />
 
(Unable to translate! -Lindar)
 
====  Notes ====
 
====  Issues ====
 
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===  Proposed grammar changes ===
 
In the PEG grammar, replace the line<br />
 
joik <- SE-clause? JOI-clause NAI-clause? / interval / GAhO-clause interval GAhO-clause<br />
 
with the line<br />
 
joik <- SE-clause? JOI-clause NAI-clause? / interval / GAhO-clause interval / interval GAhO-clause / GAhO-clause interval GAhO-clause
 
A joik cannot be immediately followed by another joik, so a sequence "BIhI GAhO BIhI" cannot occur, so determining to which BIhI a GAhO belongs does not depend on the order in this line.
 
===  General Section Notes ===
 
BIhI may be used with only one GAhO next to it; this indicates that one end of the interval is closed or open, but says nothing about the other end. The Taylor series mentioned above diverges at 0, but converges at all other points on the boundary of the disk of convergence; thus the outside is neither closed nor open.
 
The definition of GAhO with ''mi'i'' differs from that in CLL, but there appears to be no prior usage of GAhO with ''mi'i''.
 
Allowing BIhI with only one GAhO is a change in the grammar. Since GAhO is used only with BIhI, and no [[jbocre: GAhO|GAhO]] BIhI [[jbocre: GAhO|GAhO]] may be followed immediately by another [[jbocre: GAhO|GAhO]] BIhI [[jbocre: GAhO|GAhO]], this introduces no new ambiguity.
 
====  Interval or Point? ====
 
There is a question whether ''abu bi'i by'' denotes the interval [[jbocre: a..b|a..b]] or some point in the interval. Here are some examples, showing which way it has been used:
 
;lo kanla be lo remna cu viska loi gusni poi boxna folo navytre beli 400 bi'i li 800:"The human eye can see light of wavelength between 400 and 800 nanometers."
 
Wikipedia [[jbocre: gusni|gusni]]<br />
 
unclear
 
;le trucerda be fi ty. ba'orgau le se sornaitru la madjarorsag. bi'i la jugygug.:"His successors expanded the empire from Hungary to China."
 
Wikipedia [[jbocre: tcingis xan|tcingis xan]]<br />
 
interval
 
;le critu dorduncte cu cabna le 22 bi'i 24 moi be le xlima'i:"The autumnal equinox occurs between the 22nd and the 24th of September."
 
Wikipedia [[dorduncte|dorduncte]]<br />
 
point
 
;pamoi mitre fo piki'oki'opa lo jedji'o bi'i lo mijycukla:"The first standard for the meter was one ten-millionth of the distance between the pole and the equator."
 
Wikipedia [[jbocre: treci'e|treci'e]]<br />
 
interval
 
;la sangug. stici la spetsias. bi'i la riminis.:"Spain is west of the La Spezia-Rimini line."
 
Wikipedia [[jbocre: sanban|sanban]]<br />
 
interval
 
;pa jijyjutsi po'u la'o ly. Toona .ly. kuspe lo norgla jugygu'e bi'i lo nanstuna sralygu'e:"One genus, Toona, ranges from temperate China to southeast Australia."
 
Wikipedia [[jbocre: spatrmeliace|spatrmeliace]]<br />
 
interval
 
;la'aru'e lo skalduna cu stali la .auskalerik ca'o le nu lo remna be la kromanion. cu basti lo remna be la neANdertal. kei bi'o le cabna:"Possibly, Basques have been in Basque Country from the time Cro-Magnon Man replaced Neanderthal Man until now."
 
Wikipedia [[jbocre: skalduna|skalduna]]<br />
 
interval
 
;srana lo tolci'o glibau noi pu renvi de'i li ji'i 0450 bi'o ji'i 1066:"About Old English, which lasted from about 450 to about 1066"
 
;ko'e cu se banta'a co cabna lo tolci'o berdo'obau noi jibni ko'e lo ka ckini zi'e noi bangu lai vikingr. poi ke'a lo gligu'e de'i li 0790 bi'o ji'i 1040 gunta ce'o co'arxabju:"It was spoken at the same time as Old Norse, which is closely related and was spoken by the Vikings, who from 790 to 1040 attacked and then occupied England."
 
;srana lo midju glibau noi pu renvi de'i li ji'i 1066 bi'o ji'i 1500:"About Middle English, which lasted from about 1066 to about 1500."
 
;lo gligu'e cu jamna lo fasygu'e soi vo'a vo'e de'i li 1202 bi'o 1214:"England warred France and vice versa from 1202 to 1214."
 
;srana lo purci ke cabna glibau noi pu renvi de'i li ji'i 1500 bi'o ji'i 1650:"About Early Modern English, which lasted from about 1500 to about 1650."
 
;lo glico vlasrocku pe la oksford ge'u noi ke mulno je tcilykai ke'e pe'a pixra be ro glico valsi be ze'u lo ri citri cu se finti de'i li 1858 bi'o 1928:"The Oxford English Dictionary, a complete and detailed picture of all English words throughout their history, was authored from 1858 to 1928."
 
Wikipedia [[jbocre: citri lo glibau|citri lo glibau]]<br />
 
all intervals
 
;by fy nitcu lo remna poi milxe bi'o banli to pa mai toi certu la lojban:"BF needs people who are slightly to greatly (firstly) expert in Lojban."
 
camgusmis <br />
 
point

Revision as of 11:36, 23 March 2014


cmavo bi'i (BIhI)

Proposed Definition

unordered interval -- non-logical interval connective: unordered between ... and ... --

Proposed Tag

See Also

Proposed Keywords

  • between

Usage Examples

-stidi le nu zo no bi'i zo vai basti loi namcu bu

-.i namcu bu ki'a

-.i namcu lerfu pe'i

-la'edi'u drani

-suggest that zero through F be substituted for the number signs

-number signs?

-I think he meant "digits"

-that's right

la firgrup. sujgri lu'i li no bi'i ci le kaxycauvlina
"The Viergruppe is a group on the set jbocre: 0..3 with exclusive-or as the operation."
ni'oni'o di'e valsi co se cusku la moces. ro la .isra,EL. ze'o la .iarDEN. ne'i le xa'urcau po'u la .araVAT. te'e la suf. bu'u la paRAN. bi'i ke la toFEL. joi la lyVAN. joi la xatseROT. joi la diza'AV.
"These are the words which Moses said to all Israel beyond the Jordan in the uninhabited area which is Aravah on the border of Suph between Pa'ran and Tophel, Lavan, Chatserot, and Di Zahav."

Notes

Isssues

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cmavo bi'o (BIhI)

Proposed Definition

ordered interval -- non-logical interval connective: ordered from ... to ... --

Proposed Tag

See Also

Proposed Keywords

  • from ... to

Usage Examples

di'e pagbu la'elu lei xelso ranmi li'u pefi'e la nikos.tsiforos. noi xelso xamfinti je pilno be le no'e jikri'i skutra bei lenu larsku zi'ene la 1900nan bi'o la 1970nan
"This is part of "Greek Myths" by Nikos Tsiforos, a Greek humorist and slang devotee from 1900 to 1970."
mi ca'o la 1999nan. bi'o la 2001nan. se jibri vi le merko
"From 1999 to 2001 I had a job in America."
tcacyselsku fa lu la mrfis. bi'o la MANti,on li'u noi se smuni lu le cmana bi'o le xamsi li'u
"The saying is 'From Murphy to Manteo', which means 'From the mountain to the sea'."

Notes

Issues

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cmavo mi'i (BIhI)

Proposed Definition

center-range -- non-logical interval connective: ordered components: ... center, ... range surrounding center --

Proposed Tag

See Also

Proposed Keywords

Usage Examples

le bamjakne ba darxi la moskov. mi'i lo ki'otre be li panono
"The missile will hit within 100 kilometers of Moscow."
le teilr. zei sujypoi pe lo dugri fancu cu jbize'a ve'a li pa ga'omi'i pa
"The Taylor series of the logarithm function converges within 1 of 1, closed at the center."

Notes

Issues

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cmavo ga'o (GAhO)

Proposed Definition

Inclusive interval. When used before bi'o or bi'i, it indicates that the beginning of the interval is closed. When used after bi'o or bi'i, it indicates that the end of the interval is closed. When used before mi'i, it indicates that the center of the interval is closed. When used after mi'i, it indicates that the outside of the interval is closed.

Proposed Tag

See Also

Proposed Keywords

Usage Examples

.u'i mi pu zi krixa le ka gerku ga'o le mi mlatu

Yay, I just yelled out like a dog or my cat.

(I have no idea if this is correct, this is the only usage I could find.)

Notes

Issues

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cmavo ke'i (GAhO)

Proposed Definition

exclusive interval -- open interval bracket marker; modifies intervals in non-logical connectives; exclude boundaries --

Proposed Tag

See Also

Proposed Keywords

Usage Examples

mi ciska lu abu sy li'u le xy ke'i bi'i ke'i le obu


ke'i lenu mi cilre fo la velcli befi la lojban. bei loi co'a cilre cu mulno .ije mi ca'oca troci lenu mi jimpe la lojban.


mi citka lo ke clani je desku je pelxu ke'i cidja

(Unable to translate! -Lindar)

Notes

Issues

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Proposed grammar changes

In the PEG grammar, replace the line

joik <- SE-clause? JOI-clause NAI-clause? / interval / GAhO-clause interval GAhO-clause

with the line

joik <- SE-clause? JOI-clause NAI-clause? / interval / GAhO-clause interval / interval GAhO-clause / GAhO-clause interval GAhO-clause

A joik cannot be immediately followed by another joik, so a sequence "BIhI GAhO BIhI" cannot occur, so determining to which BIhI a GAhO belongs does not depend on the order in this line.

General Section Notes

BIhI may be used with only one GAhO next to it; this indicates that one end of the interval is closed or open, but says nothing about the other end. The Taylor series mentioned above diverges at 0, but converges at all other points on the boundary of the disk of convergence; thus the outside is neither closed nor open.

The definition of GAhO with mi'i differs from that in CLL, but there appears to be no prior usage of GAhO with mi'i.

Allowing BIhI with only one GAhO is a change in the grammar. Since GAhO is used only with BIhI, and no GAhO BIhI GAhO may be followed immediately by another GAhO BIhI GAhO, this introduces no new ambiguity.

Interval or Point?

There is a question whether abu bi'i by denotes the interval a..b or some point in the interval. Here are some examples, showing which way it has been used:

lo kanla be lo remna cu viska loi gusni poi boxna folo navytre beli 400 bi'i li 800
"The human eye can see light of wavelength between 400 and 800 nanometers."

Wikipedia gusni

unclear

le trucerda be fi ty. ba'orgau le se sornaitru la madjarorsag. bi'i la jugygug.
"His successors expanded the empire from Hungary to China."

Wikipedia tcingis xan

interval

le critu dorduncte cu cabna le 22 bi'i 24 moi be le xlima'i
"The autumnal equinox occurs between the 22nd and the 24th of September."

Wikipedia dorduncte

point

pamoi mitre fo piki'oki'opa lo jedji'o bi'i lo mijycukla
"The first standard for the meter was one ten-millionth of the distance between the pole and the equator."

Wikipedia treci'e

interval

la sangug. stici la spetsias. bi'i la riminis.
"Spain is west of the La Spezia-Rimini line."

Wikipedia sanban

interval

pa jijyjutsi po'u la'o ly. Toona .ly. kuspe lo norgla jugygu'e bi'i lo nanstuna sralygu'e
"One genus, Toona, ranges from temperate China to southeast Australia."

Wikipedia spatrmeliace

interval

la'aru'e lo skalduna cu stali la .auskalerik ca'o le nu lo remna be la kromanion. cu basti lo remna be la neANdertal. kei bi'o le cabna
"Possibly, Basques have been in Basque Country from the time Cro-Magnon Man replaced Neanderthal Man until now."

Wikipedia skalduna

interval

srana lo tolci'o glibau noi pu renvi de'i li ji'i 0450 bi'o ji'i 1066
"About Old English, which lasted from about 450 to about 1066"
ko'e cu se banta'a co cabna lo tolci'o berdo'obau noi jibni ko'e lo ka ckini zi'e noi bangu lai vikingr. poi ke'a lo gligu'e de'i li 0790 bi'o ji'i 1040 gunta ce'o co'arxabju
"It was spoken at the same time as Old Norse, which is closely related and was spoken by the Vikings, who from 790 to 1040 attacked and then occupied England."
srana lo midju glibau noi pu renvi de'i li ji'i 1066 bi'o ji'i 1500
"About Middle English, which lasted from about 1066 to about 1500."
lo gligu'e cu jamna lo fasygu'e soi vo'a vo'e de'i li 1202 bi'o 1214
"England warred France and vice versa from 1202 to 1214."
srana lo purci ke cabna glibau noi pu renvi de'i li ji'i 1500 bi'o ji'i 1650
"About Early Modern English, which lasted from about 1500 to about 1650."
lo glico vlasrocku pe la oksford ge'u noi ke mulno je tcilykai ke'e pe'a pixra be ro glico valsi be ze'u lo ri citri cu se finti de'i li 1858 bi'o 1928
"The Oxford English Dictionary, a complete and detailed picture of all English words throughout their history, was authored from 1858 to 1928."

Wikipedia citri lo glibau

all intervals

by fy nitcu lo remna poi milxe bi'o banli to pa mai toi certu la lojban
"BF needs people who are slightly to greatly (firstly) expert in Lojban."

camgusmis

point