BPFK Section: Intensifiers
- 1 Proposed Definitions And Examples
- 1.1 cmavo: cai (CAI)
- 1.2 cmavo: cu'i (CAI)
- 1.3 cmavo: pei (CAI)
- 1.4 cmavo: ru'e (CAI)
- 1.5 cmavo: sai (CAI)
- 2 Notes
- 3 Impact
- 4 Issues
- 5 Poll
Proposed Definitions And Examples
cmavo: cai (CAI)
Intensity Indicator. Used to express an extremely intense attitude. When following an indicator or vocative, it expresses that this attitude is extremely intense. Highest part of a seven point scale. See also: sai, ru'e, cu'i, nai, pei, the preface.
- intense emotion
- .oi cai le mi puzu se prami cu jai tcica fi le nu jbera le jdini .i je na xruti
- (Extreme complaint), my long-ago beloved is involved with deceiving someone into lending money, and didn't return it.
Holy Fucking Shit! My old ex is a thief!
- .uu cai do bilma fi ma
- That's so awful! You poor thing! What are you ill with?
cmavo: cu'i (CAI)
Intensity Indicator. Used to express a neutral attitude. When following an indicator or vocative, it expresses that neither this attitude nor its opposite applies. Middle point of a seven point scale. See also: cai, sai, ru'e, nai, pei, the preface.
- neutral emotion
- .i mi na sipna .ui cu'i
- I'm not asleep, meh.
- ju'o cu'i la lojban cu racli bangu i ku'i ju'o sai lo jbopre ta'e na racli prenu
- I'm not certain if Lojban is a rational language, but I am very sure that Lojbanists are habitually not rational people.
cmavo: pei (CAI)
Indicator Question. Attached to an indicator or vocative, asks the listener for an intensity for which that word applies to the listener's attitude. Otherwise it asks for the attitude (UI and intensity) of the listener. See also: cai, sai, ru'e, cu'i, nai, the preface.
- emotion ?
- emotional question
- ii ro'a fi'i pei
- (Social fear) Am I welcome?
Ehhh, I hope I'm not interrupting anything ...
- je'e pei doi la xalbo
- Did you get it, Frivolous?
- .i .au pei mi'o klama
- Do you want us to go?
- mu'a pei
- Such as?
- .ie pei li re ce li re cu se pamei
- Do you agree that 2 in a set with 2 is a set with one member?
cmavo: ru'e (CAI)
Intensity Indicator. Used to express a weak attitude. When following an indicator or vocative, it expresses that this attitude is particularly weak. Just above the middle position of a seven-point scale. See also: cai, sai, cu'i, nai, pei, the preface.
- weak emotion
- i la camgusmis cusku zo lobjan u'i ru'e
- Heh, Camgusmis said "Lobjan".
- .oi ru'e mi pu zi ze'a jitro le skami pe le mi mamta sepi'o la'o gy VNC gy ce'o la'o gy ssh gy
- I am mildly annoyed about just spending a while controlling my mother's computer with VNC, then with ssh.
cmavo: sai (CAI)
Attitudinal Intensity Indicator. Used to express a strong attitude. When following an indicator or vocative, it expresses that this attitude is strong. Just below the top position of a seven-point scale. See also: cai, ru'e, cu'i, nai, pei, the preface.
- strong emotion
- .oi sai mi pu ze'u denpa le nu mi te benji le se dunda le mi mamta .i ku'i mutce nabmi
- Agh. I waited for a long time for the receipt of a present from my mother. However, it's very problematic.
- .u'i sai xu do djica lo nu catra ba'e ro sfani
- Hahaha! Do you want to kill all flies?
On occasion, members of selma'o COI has been combined with pei with the intended meaning of a "vocative question". For instance, "je'e pei" is used to mean "Did you understand that?" The CLL does not explicitly address such constructs. The present proposal expressly permits this usage, and is based on an interpretation of disparate parts of the CLL in context, as well as established usage patterns.
Clarified the meaning of COI + pei.
Summary from the mailing list:
- 2. How does "pei" work?
- 2a. Does ".uipei" express any degree of happiness on the part of the speaker? Does it imply ".ui", as ".uidai" might?
- 2b. Does ".uipei" ask about the listener's happiness, or the speaker's? Is it "how happy are you?" or "tell me how happy I am?"
- 2c. Is ".uipei" in any way an expression of anything, or merely a request that the interlocutor express themself (using ".uiCAI")? If it's not an expression of anything it differs notably from every other ".uiCAI" construction in its semantics, but, well, see the two questions above for why the alternative gets weird.
- Mostly, everybody but PC agrees on how "pei" works for the most part, but can't phrase it in a precise enough way to satisfy him that we have our act together. (I for one am OK with this, since we all agree unambiguously about syntax, even PC, and very slight variations from speaker to speaker in matters of semantics are part of any spoken language.)