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==Proposed Definitions of KOhA4, KOhA5, KOhA6 ==


== Proposed Definitions of KOhA4, KOhA5, KOhA6 ==
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===cmavo: ko'a (KOhA4) ===
====Proposed Definition ====
Assignable pro-sumti. The referent is assigned using ''goi''.
====Proposed Keywords ====
* it-1
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===cmavo: ko'e (KOhA4) ===
====Proposed Definition ====
Assignable pro-sumti. The referent is assigned using ''goi''.
====Proposed Keywords ====
* it-2
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=== ko'a, ko'e, ko'i, ko'o, ko'u, fo'a, fo'e, fo'i, fo'o, fo'u (KOhA4) ===
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===cmavo: ko'i (KOhA4) ===
====Proposed Definition ====
Assignable pro-sumti. The referent is assigned using ''goi''.
====Proposed Keywords ====
* it-3
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===cmavo: ko'o (KOhA4) ===
====Proposed Definition ====
Assignable pro-sumti. The referent is assigned using ''goi''.
====Proposed Keywords ====
* it-4
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These are assignable pro-sumti. The referent of each word can be assigned using {goi}.
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===cmavo: ko'u (KOhA4) ===
====Proposed Definition ====
Assignable pro-sumti. The referent is assigned using ''goi''.
====Proposed Keywords ====
* it-5
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==== Proposed keyword ====
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===cmavo: fo'a (KOhA4) ===
====Proposed Definition ====
Assignable pro-sumti. The referent is assigned using ''goi''.
====Proposed Keywords ====
* it-6
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* ko'a: it-1
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* ko'e: it-2
===cmavo: fo'e (KOhA4) ===
====Proposed Definition ====
Assignable pro-sumti. The referent is assigned using ''goi''.
====Proposed Keywords ====
* it-7
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* ko'i: it-3
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* ko'o: it-4
===cmavo: fo'i (KOhA4) ===
====Proposed Definition ====
Assignable pro-sumti. The referent is assigned using ''goi''.
====Proposed Keywords ====
* it-8
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* ko'u: it-5
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* fo'a: it-6
===cmavo: fo'o (KOhA4) ===
====Proposed Definition ====
Assignable pro-sumti. The referent is assigned using ''goi''.
====Proposed Keywords ====
* it-9
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* fo'e: it-7
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* fo'i: it-8
===cmavo: fo'u (KOhA4) ===
====Proposed Definition ====
Assignable pro-sumti. The referent is assigned using ''goi''.
====Proposed Keywords ====
* it-10
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* fo'o: it-9
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* fo'u: it-10
===cmavo: vo'a (KOhA4) ===
====Proposed Definition ====
pro-sumti. Refers to the x1 of the outermost bridi of the sentence.
====Proposed Keywords ====
* it-x1
====Usage Examples ====
;.i la risna noltruni'u cu zutse le vo'a nolstizu:''The Queen of Hearts sat on her throne.''
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==== Examples ====
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===cmavo: vo'e (KOhA4) ===
====Proposed Definition ====
pro-sumti. Refers to the x2 of the outermost bridi of the sentence.
====Proposed Keywords ====
* it-x2
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;i le nanmu goi ko'a cu klama le zarci .i ko'a viska re nanmu goi ko'e joi ko'i .i ko'e joi ko'i ca casnu le jdima be le cipni :A man went to the market. He saw two men there. They were discussing the price of the birds.
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===cmavo: vo'i (KOhA4) ===
====Proposed Definition ====
pro-sumti. Refers to the x3 of the outermost bridi of the sentence.
====Proposed Keywords ====
* it-x3
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===cmavo: vo'o (KOhA4) ===
====Proposed Definition ====
pro-sumti. Refers to the x4 of the outermost bridi of the sentence.
====Proposed Keywords ====
* it-x4
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===cmavo: vo'u (KOhA4) ===
====Proposed Definition ====
pro-sumti. Refers to the x5 of the outermost bridi of the sentence.
====Proposed Keywords ====
* it-x5
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=== vo'a, vo'e, vo'i, vo'o, vo'u (KOhA4) ===
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===cmavo: ri (KOhA5) ===
====Proposed Definition ====
pro-sumti. Repeats the most recently started complete sumti. When back-counting, most pro-sumti are skipped over by {ri}, and can be repeated instead by repeating them literally. Pro-sumti whose referents would change if repeated literally are available to {ri}, namely {ti}, {ta}, {tu}, {ce'u}, {ma}, {zo'e} and {zu'i}.
====Proposed Keywords ====
* last sumti
====Usage Examples ====
;.i ji'a la lutcezis zo'u ri na kakne le nu ficyju'o la ceris la amonti,ados:''And as for Luchesi, he cannot distinguish Sherry from Amontillado.''
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==== Proposed definition ====
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===cmavo: ra (KOhA5) ===
====Proposed Definition ====
pro-sumti. Repeats a recent, but usually not the previous, sumti.
====Proposed Keywords ====
* recent sumti
====Usage Examples ====
;.i ca lenu la gregor.samsas. co'a cikna gi'e co'u raktu senva vau ca lo cerni kei ra facki lenu ra vi le ckana ba'o binxo lo brabra cinki:''As Gregor Samsa awoke one morning from uneasy dreams he found himself in his bed transformed into a gigantic insect.''
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These are pro-sumti that refer to sumti in the outermost bridi of the sentence. Each of the series refers to a difference place<br />
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===cmavo: ru (KOhA5) ===
====Proposed Definition ====
pro-sumti. Repeats an earlier sumti, to be determined from context.
====Proposed Keywords ====
* earlier sumti
====Usage Examples ====
;.i mi kucli ledu'u makau frica le xe fanva be ri le xe fanva be ru:''I'm curious as to what differs from the translation of that and the translation of the thing you said a bit ago.''
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vo'a - The x1 of this bridi.<br />


vo'e - The x2 of this bridi.<br />
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===cmavo: ti (KOhA6) ===
====Proposed Definition ====
pro-sumti. This here. Refers to a thing or place near the speaker.
====Proposed Keywords ====
* this here
====Usage Examples ====
;ti joncku lei cafne preti be la lojban:''This here is a collective FAQs of Lojban.''
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vo'i - The x3 of this bridi.<br />
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===cmavo: ta (KOhA6) ===
====Proposed Definition ====
pro-sumti. That there. Refers to a thing or place near the listener or a medium distance from the speaker.
====Proposed Keywords ====
* that there
====Usage Examples ====
;doi ksion go'i .i ta cnino traji:''Hey Xion, yeah. That thing near you is the most new.''
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vo'o - The x4 of this bridi.<br />
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===cmavo: tu (KOhA6) ===


vo'u - The x5 of this bridi.<br />
====Proposed Definition ====
pro-sumti. That yonder. Refers to a thing or place far away from the speaker and the listener.


==== Proposed keywords ====
==== Proposed Keywords ====
* that yonder


* vo'a: it-x1
==== Usage Examples ====
* vo'e: it-x2
;tu cukta lo pixra be lo nalgasnu ninmu:''That over there is a book containing pictures of females not really doing anything.''
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* vo'i: it-x3
==Bickerings ==
* vo'o: it-x4


* vo'u: it-x5
[http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/browse_thread/thread/0b207b268a238050 this] about ri/vo'a (+ soi)


==== Examples ====


;.i la risna noltruni'u cu zutse le vo'a nolstizu :The Queen of Hearts sat on her throne.
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==== Issues ====
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The '''vo'a'''-series cmavo refer to the sumti of the ''outermost'' bridi of the sentence. (This was left unspecified in CLL, and decided by a significant majority of usage.)
 
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===  ri, ra, ru (KOhA5) ===
 
==== Proposed definition ====
 
These pro-sumti repeat previous sumti in the sentence. ri repeats the previous sumti. ra repeats a recent, but usually not the previous, sumti. And ru repeats an earlier sumti, to be determined from context.
 
==== Proposed keywords ====
 
* ri: last sumti
* ra: recent sumti
 
* ru: earlier sumti
 
==== Examples ====
 
;.i ji'a la lutcezis zo'u ri na kakne le nu ficyju'o la ceris la amonti,ados :And as for Luchesi, he cannot distinguish Sherry from Amontillado.
 
;.i ca lenu la gregor.samsas. co'a cikna gi'e co'u raktu senva vau ca lo cerni kei ra facki lenu ra vi le ckana ba'o binxo lo brabra cinki :As Gregor Samsa awoke one morning from uneasy dreams he found himself in his bed transformed into a gigantic insect.
 
;.i mi kucli ledu'u makau frica le xe fanva be ri le xe fanva be ru :I'm curious as to what differs from the translation of that and the translation of the thing you said a bit ago.
 
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=== ti, ta, tu (KOhA6) ===
 
==== Proposed definition ====
 
These pro-sumti are demonstratives. They refer to objects in the real world. ti refers to an object near the speaker; "this here object". ta refers to an object near the listener, or if the listener is near the speaker it refers to an object a medium distance away; "that there object". tu refers to a distant object, or one far from both the speaker and the listener; "that yonder object".
 
==== Proposed keywords ====
 
* ti: this here
* ta: that there
 
* tu: that yonder
 
==== Examples ====
 
;ti joncku lei cafne preti be la lojban :This here is a collective FAQs of Lojban.
 
;doi ksion go'i .i ta cnino traji :Hey Xion, yeah. That thing near you is the most new.
 
;tu cukta lo pixra be lo nalgasnu ninmu :That over there is a book containing pictures of females not really doing anything.
 
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== Bickerings ==
 
[http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/browse_thread/thread/0b207b268a238050 his] about ri/vo'a (+ soi)

Latest revision as of 22:48, 3 April 2020

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Proposed Definitions of KOhA4, KOhA5, KOhA6

cmavo: ko'a (KOhA4)

Proposed Definition

Assignable pro-sumti. The referent is assigned using goi.

Proposed Keywords

  • it-1


cmavo: ko'e (KOhA4)

Proposed Definition

Assignable pro-sumti. The referent is assigned using goi.

Proposed Keywords

  • it-2


cmavo: ko'i (KOhA4)

Proposed Definition

Assignable pro-sumti. The referent is assigned using goi.

Proposed Keywords

  • it-3


cmavo: ko'o (KOhA4)

Proposed Definition

Assignable pro-sumti. The referent is assigned using goi.

Proposed Keywords

  • it-4


cmavo: ko'u (KOhA4)

Proposed Definition

Assignable pro-sumti. The referent is assigned using goi.

Proposed Keywords

  • it-5


cmavo: fo'a (KOhA4)

Proposed Definition

Assignable pro-sumti. The referent is assigned using goi.

Proposed Keywords

  • it-6


cmavo: fo'e (KOhA4)

Proposed Definition

Assignable pro-sumti. The referent is assigned using goi.

Proposed Keywords

  • it-7


cmavo: fo'i (KOhA4)

Proposed Definition

Assignable pro-sumti. The referent is assigned using goi.

Proposed Keywords

  • it-8


cmavo: fo'o (KOhA4)

Proposed Definition

Assignable pro-sumti. The referent is assigned using goi.

Proposed Keywords

  • it-9


cmavo: fo'u (KOhA4)

Proposed Definition

Assignable pro-sumti. The referent is assigned using goi.

Proposed Keywords

  • it-10


cmavo: vo'a (KOhA4)

Proposed Definition

pro-sumti. Refers to the x1 of the outermost bridi of the sentence.

Proposed Keywords

  • it-x1

Usage Examples

.i la risna noltruni'u cu zutse le vo'a nolstizu
The Queen of Hearts sat on her throne.


cmavo: vo'e (KOhA4)

Proposed Definition

pro-sumti. Refers to the x2 of the outermost bridi of the sentence.

Proposed Keywords

  • it-x2


cmavo: vo'i (KOhA4)

Proposed Definition

pro-sumti. Refers to the x3 of the outermost bridi of the sentence.

Proposed Keywords

  • it-x3


cmavo: vo'o (KOhA4)

Proposed Definition

pro-sumti. Refers to the x4 of the outermost bridi of the sentence.

Proposed Keywords

  • it-x4


cmavo: vo'u (KOhA4)

Proposed Definition

pro-sumti. Refers to the x5 of the outermost bridi of the sentence.

Proposed Keywords

  • it-x5


cmavo: ri (KOhA5)

Proposed Definition

pro-sumti. Repeats the most recently started complete sumti. When back-counting, most pro-sumti are skipped over by {ri}, and can be repeated instead by repeating them literally. Pro-sumti whose referents would change if repeated literally are available to {ri}, namely {ti}, {ta}, {tu}, {ce'u}, {ma}, {zo'e} and {zu'i}.

Proposed Keywords

  • last sumti

Usage Examples

.i ji'a la lutcezis zo'u ri na kakne le nu ficyju'o la ceris la amonti,ados
And as for Luchesi, he cannot distinguish Sherry from Amontillado.


cmavo: ra (KOhA5)

Proposed Definition

pro-sumti. Repeats a recent, but usually not the previous, sumti.

Proposed Keywords

  • recent sumti

Usage Examples

.i ca lenu la gregor.samsas. co'a cikna gi'e co'u raktu senva vau ca lo cerni kei ra facki lenu ra vi le ckana ba'o binxo lo brabra cinki
As Gregor Samsa awoke one morning from uneasy dreams he found himself in his bed transformed into a gigantic insect.


cmavo: ru (KOhA5)

Proposed Definition

pro-sumti. Repeats an earlier sumti, to be determined from context.

Proposed Keywords

  • earlier sumti

Usage Examples

.i mi kucli ledu'u makau frica le xe fanva be ri le xe fanva be ru
I'm curious as to what differs from the translation of that and the translation of the thing you said a bit ago.



cmavo: ti (KOhA6)

Proposed Definition

pro-sumti. This here. Refers to a thing or place near the speaker.

Proposed Keywords

  • this here

Usage Examples

ti joncku lei cafne preti be la lojban
This here is a collective FAQs of Lojban.


cmavo: ta (KOhA6)

Proposed Definition

pro-sumti. That there. Refers to a thing or place near the listener or a medium distance from the speaker.

Proposed Keywords

  • that there

Usage Examples

doi ksion go'i .i ta cnino traji
Hey Xion, yeah. That thing near you is the most new.


cmavo: tu (KOhA6)

Proposed Definition

pro-sumti. That yonder. Refers to a thing or place far away from the speaker and the listener.

Proposed Keywords

  • that yonder

Usage Examples

tu cukta lo pixra be lo nalgasnu ninmu
That over there is a book containing pictures of females not really doing anything.


Bickerings

this about ri/vo'a (+ soi)


Poll