View source for abstractors with SE and connectives



You can use ''se'' with abstractors. Most common is ''sedu'u'', but others are possible. The abstractors that have x2 places are ''ni'', ''jei'', ''li'i'', ''si'o'', ''du'u'', ''pu'o'', ''zu'o''. The abstractors that have only x1 are ''nu'', ''ka'', ''za'i'', ''mu'e''.

''mi cusku le sedu'u mi ze'e noroi srere si srera''

You can use connectives with abstractors. From [[the Book|the Book]], chapter 11, section 13:

''le ka je ni la frank. ciska cu xlali''

But you cannot freely use them together! ''se jei broda'' parses as ''se (jei broda)'', and ''se jei je ni broda'' parses as ''se (jei je ni broda)''. The ''se'' applies to both abstractors. ''se'' is ungrammatical inside the connected abstractors.

''jei je seni broda'' - '''bzzt!''' ungrammatical

(On the other hand, it's perfectly legal to do excessive negation: ''jeinai najenai ninai na broda''. Ow, I think I just burned out some brain cells!)

''mi'e [[jezrax|jezrax]]''

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''Keep in mind that '''ka''' has an unofficial x2: The thing that bears the quality in question. Hence:''

le ka ce'u sutra

''Speed''

le ka ce'u sutra kei be le mi gerku

''My dog's speed''