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2021-06-22T22:27:31Z

Robin Townsend: Update Matrix link

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[[File:Slack icon 2019.svg|50px|link=https://join.slack.com/t/lojban/shared_invite/zt-k3s96tvq-4mtkvG0ZlW2rFIwTPb4rIg|Slack]]
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[[File:Matrix_icon.svg|50px|link=https://matrix.to/#/#lojban:libera.chat|Matrix]]
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<div style="text-align:center;font-size:80%;">Or join #lojban on Freenode IRC.</div>
<div style="margin-top:1em;text-align:center;font-size:80%;">Join [[Lojban Live Chat|channels for beginners and advanced users]].</div>

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Lojban Live Chat

2021-06-22T22:24:50Z

Robin Townsend: Restore and update Matrix connection instructions

{{se inspekte/en}}The Internet Relay Chat (aka IRC)<ref>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC</ref> channel is a place for people to textually chat in real-time.
==Connecting quickly==
To get connected to Lojban chat use any of the following methods (your and others' messages will be available in all of them no matter which method you use).

People involved in Lojban community usually read each day's backlog and will answer your questions within several hours and often even within minutes.

===Telegram===
[[Image:Telegram logo.svg|thumb|x70px|link=]]Using this method you will be able to read the history of the chat since the beginning of 2016.

# Install the free [https://telegram.org Telegram messenger] app on your Apple, Android or your desktop device
# join main Lojban chat groups by following these links:
#*<span class="plainlinks">[https://t.me/joinchat/BLVsYz3hCF8mCAb6fzW1Rw lojban]</span> - talk in or about Lojban
#*<span class="plainlinks">[https://telegram.me/joinchat/BLVsYz4hC9ulWahupDLovA ckule]</span> - ask questions arising while your study of Lojban
#*<span class="plainlinks">[https://telegram.me/joinchat/BLVsYz20Boixl0xN-0TrPw jbosnu]</span> - talk in Lojban only
#*<span class="plainlinks">[https://telegram.me/joinchat/CJYorT2ma6UVfhb9YThEqw jboselbau]</span> - for any offtopic discussions :)
#*<span class="plainlinks">[https://t.me/joinchat/IA5__x1TXTaLH2sKyOvMQg voknoi]</span> - for voice only messages in Lojban

Other groups:
#<span class="plainlinks">[https://t.me/joinchat/BLVsY0srQSQCgg-dAXpChA rusko]</span> - Lojban - Russian group
#<span class="plainlinks">[https://t.me/joinchat/BLVsY0Zwl7cpY1WSDm_iTA polsk]</span> - lojban - polska grupa (Lojban - Polish group)
#<span class="plainlinks">[https://t.me/joinchat/BLVsY1CaPEK6UyBZmloTdg ponjbo]</span> - Lojban - Japanese group
#<span class="plainlinks">[https://t.me/tokpona tokpona]</span> - Lojban - Tokipona group

===Mattermost ===
Using this method you will be able to read the history of the chat since September 2018.

Signup via [https://framateam.org/signup_user_complete/?id=17b4ir6u6by6px693dm8kmy7yw Framateam's server].

===Slack===
[[Image:Slack Technologies Logo.svg|thumb|x70px|link=]]Using this method you will be able to read the history of the chat for the last ~7 days or so.
# Use <span class="plainlinks">[https://join.slack.com/t/lojban/shared_invite/zt-k3s96tvq-4mtkvG0ZlW2rFIwTPb4rIg the invite link]</span>.
# Open <span class="plainlinks">http://lojban.slack.com</span>
# Ask questions on Lojban in #ckule channel, talk in or about Lojban in #lojban channel and talk only in Lojban in #jbosnu channel.

===Discord===
The chat is also connected to a [https://discord.gg/BVm4EYR Discord server].
# Ask questions on Lojban in #ckule channel, talk in or about Lojban in #lojban channel and talk only in Lojban in #jbosnu channel.
# Freely chat about anything to like-minded Lojbanists in the #jboselbau channel.

===Matrix===
[[Image:Matrix logo.svg|thumb|x70px|link=]]You can connect to the chat natively from any Matrix server.
* [https://matrix.to/#/#lojban:libera.chat #lojban:libera.chat] for discussions in any language,
* [https://matrix.to/#/#ckule:libera.chat #ckule:libera.chat] for questions from new learners in any language, and
* [https://matrix.to/#/#jbosnu:libera.chat #jbosnu:libera.chat] for discussions in Lojban only.

===Direct web access===
[[Image:IRC logo.svg|thumb|x70px|link=]]Using this method you will be able to see messages that are sent only while you are connected.
#Navigate to <span class="plainlinks">[{{Webchat url qwebirc}} the web-based IRC client (Kiwi)]</span>, choose a nickname you want yourself to be known as, and click "Start". Easy!
#Click on the channel you want (tabs on the top of the page), and type your text in the text bar at the bottom - the last line at the bottom of the chat page.
#Ask questions on Lojban in #ckule tab, talk in or about Lojban in #lojban tab and talk only in Lojban in #jbosnu tab.

=== Trickier ways of connecting ===
This is for geeks. If you have an IRC application installed use the following information:
*The Lojban IRC channel is on the [http://libera.chat Libera IRC network]. Use '''irc.libera.chat''' for the server, port '''6667''' (or 6679 for an SSL-encrypted connection). Registering with NickServ is recommended.
*The three channels are used:
** [irc://irc.libera.chat/lojban #lojban] for basic discussions in any language,
** [irc://irc.libera.chat/ckule #ckule] for questions from new learners in any language and
** [irc://irc.libera.chat/jbosnu #jbosnu] for discussions in Lojban only.
It is recommended, but by no means required, that you learn what IRC is by briefly reading some of the [http://www.mirc.com/ircintro.html IRC Frequently Asked Questions] or [http://irchelp.org/irchelp/new2irc.html The IRC Prelude].

You may also use [https://irssi.org/ irssi command line app] on your server to keep the whole log of chat activity.

== Conduct ==
There are almost always more than 100 people connected, but since they live in different timezones most of the time, they'll be idle. Say '''coi''', hit Enter and wait. Get a soda. Practice your vocabulary. But be patient. Dedicated IRC'ers don't sit in front of the computer 24/7 waiting to respond within 10 seconds of everything said. Think of it as sort of a fast moving message board.

You might also have a look at the [[IRC cheat sheet|IRC cheat sheet]], which contains a list of translations of frequently used expressions.

==[[IRC Bots]]==

== Rules ==
Just behave and be respectful, don't intentionally try to annoy others. Don't worry though, usually you'll only annoy people if you're actively trying.
== Logs ==
There are [http://www.lojban.org/irclogs/ public logs of the utterances in Lojban of the IRC channel]<ref>Thanks to help from Theodore Reed and Jordan DeLong</ref>.

The logs are filtered so that they contain only Lojban text. However, you might still be offended by the things discussed there. If you are, that's your problem and the [[LLG]] explicitly disclaims responsibility for anything said on the IRC channel, including by members or officers of the [[LLG]].

Furthermore, no guarantee is made as to the correctness of the Lojban therein. Nonetheless, the IRC logs currently constitute one of the largest corpora of Lojban text.
== Discussion Topics ==
A list of interesting discussion topics, about the nature of the language, is being actively maintained and [[jboske discussion|copied]] into this wiki. They often include specific terminology. The discussions are presented as is, copied from the IRC channel.

==References==
<references />

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2020-08-16T21:05:45Z

Robin Townsend: .i da notci tcita le sinxa be la .meitriks.

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<p style="width: 100%; margin: 2px auto">Join our live chat (all linked by chat bridge bots):</p><p style="margin:0;font-size: 120%">
[[File:telegram-icon.png|50px|link=https://t.me/joinchat/BLVsYz3hCF8mCAb6fzW1Rw|Telegram]]
[[File:Slack icon 2019.svg|50px|link=https://slaka.herokuapp.com|Slack]]
[[File:discord-icon.png|50px|link=https://discord.gg/BVm4EYR|Discord]]
[[File:mattermost-icon.png|50px|link=https://framateam.org/signup_user_complete/?id=17b4ir6u6by6px693dm8kmy7yw|Mattermost]]
[[File:Matrix_icon.svg|50px|link=https://matrix.to/#/+jbo:townsendandsmith.ml|Matrix]]
</p>
<div style="text-align:center;font-size:80%;">Or join #lojban on Freenode IRC.</div>
<div style="margin-top:1em;text-align:center;font-size:80%;">Join [[Lojban Live Chat|channels for beginners and advanced users]].</div>

</div>

Lojban Live Chat

2020-08-13T02:52:59Z

Robin Townsend: .i basti fa le cnino fi le ka sinxa la .slak.

{{se inspekte/en}}The Internet Relay Chat (aka IRC)<ref>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC</ref> channel is a place for people to textually chat in real-time.
==Connecting quickly==
To get connected to Lojban chat use any of the following methods (your and others' messages will be available in all of them no matter which method you use).

People involved in Lojban community usually read each day's backlog and will answer your questions within several hours and often even within minutes.

===Telegram===
[[Image:Telegram logo.svg|thumb|x70px|link=]]Using this method you will be able to read the history of the chat since the beginning of 2016.

# Install the free [https://telegram.org Telegram messenger] app on your Apple, Android or your desktop device
# join main Lojban chat groups by following these links:
#*<span class="plainlinks">[https://t.me/joinchat/BLVsYz3hCF8mCAb6fzW1Rw lojban]</span> - talk in or about Lojban
#*<span class="plainlinks">[https://telegram.me/joinchat/BLVsYz4hC9ulWahupDLovA ckule]</span> - ask questions arising while your study of Lojban
#*<span class="plainlinks">[https://telegram.me/joinchat/BLVsYz20Boixl0xN-0TrPw jbosnu]</span> - talk in Lojban only
#*<span class="plainlinks">[https://telegram.me/joinchat/CJYorT2ma6UVfhb9YThEqw jboselbau]</span> - for any offtopic discussions :)

Other groups:
#<span class="plainlinks">[https://t.me/joinchat/BLVsY0srQSQCgg-dAXpChA rusko]</span> - Lojban - Russian group
#<span class="plainlinks">[https://t.me/joinchat/BLVsY0Zwl7cpY1WSDm_iTA polsk]</span> - lojban - polska grupa (Lojban - Polish group)
#<span class="plainlinks">[https://t.me/joinchat/BLVsY1CaPEK6UyBZmloTdg ponjbo]</span> - Lojban - Japanese group
#<span class="plainlinks">[https://t.me/tokpona tokpona]</span> - Lojban - Tokipona group

===Mattermost ===
Using this method you will be able to read the history of the chat since September 2018.

Signup via [https://framateam.org/signup_user_complete/?id=17b4ir6u6by6px693dm8kmy7yw Framateam's server].

===Slack===
[[Image:Slack Technologies Logo.svg|thumb|x70px|link=]]Using this method you will be able to read the history of the chat for the last ~7 days or so.
# Open <span class="plainlinks">https://slaka.herokuapp.com</span> Submit your email and get an invite to <span class="plainlinks">http://lojban.slack.com</span> to your e-mail inbox.
# Open <span class="plainlinks">http://lojban.slack.com</span>
# Ask questions on Lojban in #ckule channel, talk in or about Lojban in #lojban channel and talk only in Lojban in #jbosnu channel.

===Discord===
The chat is also connected to a [https://discord.gg/BVm4EYR Discord server].
# Ask questions on Lojban in #ckule channel, talk in or about Lojban in #lojban channel and talk only in Lojban in #jbosnu channel.
# Freely chat about anything to like-minded Lojbanists in the #jboselbau channel.

===Matrix===
[[Image:Matrix logo.svg|thumb|x70px|link=]]You can connect to the chat from any Matrix server using matrix.org's Freenode bridge.
* [https://matrix.to/#/#freenode_#lojban:matrix.org #lojban] for discussions in any language,
* [https://matrix.to/#/#freenode_#ckule:matrix.org #ckule] for questions from new learners in any language,
* [https://matrix.to/#/#freenode_#jbosnu:matrix.org #jbosnu] for discussions in Lojban only, and
* [https://matrix.to/#/#freenode_##jboselbau:matrix.org ##jboselbau] for discussions not necessarily related to Lojban.
Note that in order to join #ckule, #jbosnu, or ##jboselbau, you must use a registered Freenode nick, which you can configure by messaging the [https://matrix.to/#/@appservice-irc:matrix.org matrix.org Freenode bridge].

===Direct web access===
[[Image:IRC logo.svg|thumb|x70px|link=]]Using this method you will be able to see messages that are sent only while you are connected.
#Navigate to <span class="plainlinks">[{{Webchat url kiwi}} the web-based IRC client (Kiwi)]</span>, choose a nickname you want yourself to be known as, and click "Start". Easy!
#Click on the channel you want (tabs on the top of the page), and type your text in the text bar at the bottom - the last line at the bottom of the chat page.
#Ask questions on Lojban in #ckule tab, talk in or about Lojban in #lojban tab and talk only in Lojban in #jbosnu tab.

You may alternately try <span class="plainlinks">[{{Webchat url qwebirc}} another client (The Lounge)]</span>.

=== Trickier ways of connecting ===
This is for geeks. If you have an IRC application installed use the following information:
*The Lojban IRC channel is on the [http://freenode.net Freenode IRC network]. Use '''irc.lojban.org''' or '''chat.freenode.net''' for the server, port '''6667''' (or 6679 for an SSL-encrypted connection). Registering with NickServ is recommended.
*The three channels are used:
** [irc://irc.freenode.net/lojban #lojban] for basic discussions in any language,
** [irc://irc.freenode.net/ckule #ckule] for questions from new learners in any language and
** [irc://irc.freenode.net/jbosnu #jbosnu] for discussions in Lojban only.
It is recommended, but by no means required, that you learn what IRC is by briefly reading some of the [http://www.mirc.com/ircintro.html IRC Frequently Asked Questions] or [http://irchelp.org/irchelp/new2irc.html The IRC Prelude].

You may also use [https://irssi.org/ irssi command line app] on your server to keep the whole log of chat activity.

== Conduct ==
There are almost always more than 100 people connected, but since they live in different timezones most of the time, they'll be idle. Say '''coi''', hit Enter and wait. Get a soda. Practice your vocabulary. But be patient. Dedicated IRC'ers don't sit in front of the computer 24/7 waiting to respond within 10 seconds of everything said. Think of it as sort of a fast moving message board.

You might also have a look at the [[IRC cheat sheet|IRC cheat sheet]], which contains a list of translations of frequently used expressions.

==[[IRC Bots]]==

== Rules ==
Just behave and be respectful, don't intentionally try to annoy others. Don't worry though, usually you'll only annoy people if you're actively trying.
== Logs ==
There are [http://www.lojban.org/irclogs/ public logs of the utterances in Lojban of the IRC channel]<ref>Thanks to help from Theodore Reed and Jordan DeLong</ref>.

The logs are filtered so that they contain only Lojban text. However, you might still be offended by the things discussed there. If you are, that's your problem and the [[LLG]] explicitly disclaims responsibility for anything said on the IRC channel, including by members or officers of the [[LLG]].

Furthermore, no guarantee is made as to the correctness of the Lojban therein. Nonetheless, the IRC logs currently constitute one of the largest corpora of Lojban text.
== Discussion Topics ==
A list of interesting discussion topics, about the nature of the language, is being actively maintained and [[jboske discussion|copied]] into this wiki. They often include specific terminology. The discussions are presented as is, copied from the IRC channel.

==References==
<references />

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2020-08-13T02:51:30Z

Robin Townsend: .i basti fa le cnino fi le ka sinxa la .slak.

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<p style="width: 100%; margin: 2px auto">Join our live chat (all linked by chat bridge bots):</p><p style="margin:0;font-size: 120%">
[[File:telegram-icon.png|50px|link=https://t.me/joinchat/BLVsYz3hCF8mCAb6fzW1Rw|Telegram]]
[[File:Slack icon 2019.svg|50px|link=https://slaka.herokuapp.com|Slack]]
[[File:discord-icon.png|50px|link=https://discord.gg/BVm4EYR|Discord]]
[[File:mattermost-icon.png|50px|link=https://framateam.org/signup_user_complete/?id=17b4ir6u6by6px693dm8kmy7yw|Mattermost]]
[[File:Matrix_icon.svg|50px|link=https://matrix.to/#/+jbo:townsendandsmith.ml]]
</p>
<div style="text-align:center;font-size:80%;">Or join #lojban on Freenode IRC.</div>
<div style="margin-top:1em;text-align:center;font-size:80%;">Join [[Lojban Live Chat|channels for beginners and advanced users]].</div>

</div>

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2020-08-03T00:15:28Z

Robin Townsend: .i la .meitriks. cu ziljmina

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<p style="width: 100%; margin: 2px auto">Join our live chat (all linked by chat bridge bots):</p><p style="margin:0;font-size: 120%">
[[File:telegram-icon.png|50px|link=https://t.me/joinchat/BLVsYz3hCF8mCAb6fzW1Rw|Telegram]]
[[File:slack-icon.png|50px|link=https://slaka.herokuapp.com|Slack]]
[[File:discord-icon.png|50px|link=https://discord.gg/BVm4EYR|Discord]]
[[File:mattermost-icon.png|50px|link=https://framateam.org/signup_user_complete/?id=17b4ir6u6by6px693dm8kmy7yw|Mattermost]]
[[File:Matrix_icon.svg|50px|link=https://matrix.to/#/+jbo:townsendandsmith.ml]]
</p>
<div style="text-align:center;font-size:80%;">Or join #lojban on Freenode IRC.</div>
<div style="margin-top:1em;text-align:center;font-size:80%;">Join [[Lojban Live Chat|channels for beginners and advanced users]].</div>

</div>