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All about poi and noi

2019-01-10T20:02:27Z

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''———Written by selpahi———''

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This page sets out to explain all you need to now about the relative clause markers '''poi''' and '''noi'''.

It does not contain separate explanations for '''pe''', '''ne''', '''po'u''' and '''no'u''', because those are nothing more than shortcuts of '''poi''' and '''noi''' combined with specific predicates. Everything that applies to '''poi''' and '''noi''' directly applies to those cmavo, too. No separate explanations are required. For a conversion table see the bottom of this page.

The examples on this page will consist of a Lojban phrase or expression, a rendering in logic notation, and an English translation.

=Logic symbols used in this article=

{| class="wikitable"
! Symbol !! Meaning
|-
| <math>\exists</math> || existential quantifier
|-
| <math>\forall</math> || universal quantifier
|-
| <math>\land</math> || logical and
|-
| <math>\neg</math> || logical negation
|-
| <math>=</math> || sameness, the two operands have the same referents.
|-
| <math>\subseteq</math> || is-among, Lojban '''me'''
|-
| <math>\square</math> || any (outer) quantifier
|-
| <math>x, y, z</math> || singular variables
|-
| <math>xx, yy, zz</math> || plural variables
|-
| <math>c, c_0, c_1\dots</math> || plural constants
|-
| <math>[\cdots]\colon </math> || surrounds prenex
|-
| <math>\colon</math> || corresponds to Lojban '''poi'''
|-
| <math>;</math> || separates sentences, like Lojban '''.i'''
|}

=poi and noi in general=

'''poi''' and '''noi''' introduce relative clauses, restrictive and non-restrictive respectively. They help us narrow down referent sets or allow us to provide additional information about a given sumti. For both '''poi''' and '''noi''', their syntactic position and environment make a big difference as to what exactly they achieve in a given sentence. We will look at each and every possible case below.

==A general note about inner quantifiers==

It should be noted that so-called inner quantifiers (the ones between gadri and selbri) aren't true logical quantifiers in that they don't count true bridi, but merely enumerate the number of referents of a sumti. The presence or absence of an inner quantifier has no effect on the behaviour of relative clauses, be it outer or inner relative clauses. What a relative clause means is solely dependent on whether it is a restrictive ('''poi''') or non-restrictive ('''noi''') one, and whether it is an inner ('''lo broda NOI''') or outer ('''lo broda ku NOI''') relative clause.

=PA da poi=

[...]

What does a quantifier do? A quantifier counts how many times or for how many things a bridi is true, or, put another way, a quantifier counts true bridi.

[...]

domain

anything -> anybody

examples

A useful thing to know is that a sentence of the form '''su'o da poi broda cu brode''' is truth-functionally equivalent to '''su'o da ge broda gi brode''':

{{mu|su'o da poi ke'a broda cu brode}}
{{lm||equals}}
{{mu|su'o da ge broda gi brode}}

For example:

{{lm|su'o da poi ke'a cribe cu blabi |<math>[\exists x\colon \text{cribe}(x)]\colon \text{blabi}(x)</math> |"Some bears are white."}}

has the same meaning as:

{{lm|su'o da ge cribe gi blabi |<math>[\exists x]\colon \text{cribe}(x) \land \text{blabi}(x)</math>|"There exists some X such that X is both a bear and white."}}

For '''ro da poi broda cu brode''' the following equivalence holds instead:

{{lm|ro da poi ke'a broda cu brode}}
{{lm||equals}}
{{lm|ro da zo'u ga nai da broda gi da brode}}

For example:

{{lm|Lojban|<math>logic</math>|"English."}}

which means the same as:

{{lm|Lojban|<math>logic</math>|"English."}}

==PA <selbri>==

By definition, '''PA da poi ke'a broda''' can be abbreviated '''PA broda'''. This is a handy shortcut that saves space, variables, and terminators. Apart from the different grammar, '''PA broda''' behaves identical to '''PA da poi ke'a broda''' in all contexts.

==PA <sumti>==

'''poi''' also appears "invisibly" any time a sumti carries an outer quantifier.

A quantifier <math>\square</math> counts for how many things that are among the referents of <sumti> the bridi is true, or in other words, it tells you that if you were to substitute each member for <sumti>, then the bridi would be true exactly <math>\square</math> times.

This is the formula that is evoked any time an outer quantifier occurs in a bridi:

{{lm|Q da poi ke'a me <math>c</math> cu broda|<math>[\square x \colon x \subseteq c ]\colon \text{broda}(x)</math>}}

[...]

For example:

{{lm|Lojban|<math>logic</math>|"English"}}

[...]

{{lm|Lojban|<math>logic</math>|"English"}}

We will need this expansion later when we look at '''PA lo <selbri>''' and its variations.

=PA da noi=

[...]

{{lm|Q da broda|<math>[\square x]\colon \text{broda}(x)</math>}}

{{mu|Q <sumti> cu broda}}

{{mu|Q da poi ke'a me <sumti> cu broda}}

[...]

{{lm|Q da poi ke'a brode cu broda|<math>[\square x \colon \text{brode}(x)]\colon \text{broda}(x)</math>}}

[...]

{{lm|Q da noi ke'a brode cu broda|<math>[\square x]\colon \text{broda}(x); [\forall y \colon \text{brode}(y)]\colon \text{broda}(y)</math>}}

Whence the universal quantifier? In simple terms, we know that '''noi''' is non-restrictive, which means that its presence must not have any impact on the number of true bridi that the quantifier <math>\square</math> counts. The only logical way in which a relative clause could make a statement without restricting (i.e. selecting a sub-set) is if the predicate of the '''noi'''-clause applies to ''every'' member of a given referent-set.

Prefixing a '''na ku''' to a bridi is always a good way to gain insights about the scope interactions within the bridi. How does such a negation differ between a '''poi''' sentence and a '''noi''' sentence?

na ku su'o da poi ke'a brode cu broda

<math>\neg [\exists x \colon \text{brode}(x)]\colon \text{broda}(x)</math>

<math>[\forall x \colon \text{brode}(x)]\colon \neg \text{broda}(x)</math>

{{mu|na ku su'o da noi ke'a brode cu broda|<math>\neg [\exists x]\colon \text{broda}(x); [\forall y \colon \text{brode}(y)]\colon \text{broda}(y)</math>}}

In the '''noi''' version, we know that nothing '''broda''', but all things still '''brode''', because '''noi''' makes a separate claim.

In the '''poi''' version, we know have a much weaker claim, namely that nothing satisfies both '''brode''' and '''broda''' together (<math>\text{broda}(x) \land \text{brode}(x)</math>), while nothing is said about how many things satisfy '''broda''', and how many satisfy '''brode'''.

=<sumti> NOI=

==<sumti> noi==

Let's begin this section with the simplest case first, '''<sumti> noi'''. This is '''noi''' in its most basic habitat. '''noi''' makes an incidental claim about the head noun which is separate from the main bridi. The general syntax of '''<sumti> noi''' is this:

{{lm|<math>c</math> noi ke'a brode cu broda|<math>\text{brode}(c); \text{broda}(c)</math>}}

Logically speaking this is the simplest possible use of a relative clause; two simple claims, no quantification. For example:

{{lm|mi pilno ti noi ke'a plixau|<math>c = \text{ti}; \text{pilno}(\text{mi}, c); \text{plixau}(c)</math>|"I'm using this, which is useful." / "I'm using this. It's useful."}}

What does it mean for the '''noi''' clause to constitute a separate claim? It means that any operators that operate on the main bridi will not affect the content of the '''noi''' clause. For example:

{{lm|xu do noi ke'a certu ba sidju mi|<math>?\big[\text{sidju}(\text{do}, \text{mi}); \: \text{certu}(\text{do})\big]</math>|"Will you, who are an expert, help me?"}}

The question word '''xu''' only affects the main bridi, keeping the '''noi''' clause an assertion.

Similarly so for negation:

{{lm|na ku mi noi prami do cu tolstace|<math>\neg \text{tolstace}(\text{mi}); \text{prami}(\text{mi}, \text{do})</math>|"It's not the case that I, who love you, am dishonest." (i.e., "I love you, and I'm not dishonest."}}

While it's possible to translate '''mi noi prami do cu tolstace''' into English as ''"I love you and am being dishonest"'', this is not recommended, because it could suggest that '''noi''' can be translated into '''gi'e''', which it cannot, as becomes apparent when the '''na ku''' is added back in:

{{lm|na ku mi prami do gi'e tolstace|<math>\neg ( \text{prami}(\text{mi}, \text{do}) \land \text{tolstace}(\text{mi}))</math>|"It's not the case that I both love you and am being dishonest." (i.e., at least one of those two is false)}}

Therefore it's best to always consider the '''noi''' clause as entirely independent from the main claim, lest one could make wrong assumptions.

==<sumti> poi==

The previous section that '''<sumti> noi''' is very straightforward. It has an obvious meaning and its logic is easy to grasp. '''<sumti> poi''' on the other hand might be less obvious. In the section about '''da poi''' we saw '''poi''' restricting the domain of a quantifier. But here we have no quantifier, so what is the '''poi''', the ''restrictive'' relative clause marker, to restrict in '''<sumti> poi'''?

The general syntax of '''<sumti> poi''' is this:

{{lm|<math>c</math> poi ke'a brode cu broda|<math>c^\prime \subseteq c \land \text{brode}(c^\prime); \text{broda}(c^\prime)</math>}}

What does this mean? It means that '''<sumti> poi ke'a brode''' creates a new sumti whose referents are those that are both among <sumti> and satisfy '''brode'''. Since there is no quantifier whose domain could be restricted, the '''poi''' has to perform a restriction directly on the sumti. It does this by selecting referents from among the sumti which satisfy a certain predicate, namely the predicate inside the relative clause.

It is important to note that precisely ''all'' referents that are among <sumti> and satisfy '''brode''' are among the referents of the resulting expression, not just ''some'' of the referents. This is called maximality.

Looking at the logic notation, we can see that the constant <math>c</math> is only stated to be among <math>c1</math> and to '''brode''', but not that all referents among <math>c1</math> that brode are among <math>c0</math>, even though that's what the '''poi''' version implies. The following always holds with outer '''poi''':

<math>[\forall xx]\colon xx \subseteq c_{\text{sumti}} \land \text{brode}(xx) \implies xx \subseteq c_0</math>

So the full sentence would actually be:

<math>c_0 \subseteq c_{\text{sumti}} \land \text{brode}(c_0) \land ([\forall xx]\colon xx \subseteq c \land \text{brode}(xx) \implies xx \subseteq c_1); \text{broda}(c_0)</math>

However, since this takes up so much space, we will omit the part in the middle with the understanding that maximality is implied in all examples involving outer '''poi'''. This is to keep things easier to read.

Let's look at some examples:

{{lm|Lojban|<math>logic</math>|"English."}}

[...]

{{lm|Lojban|<math>logic</math>|"English."}}

[...]

===<sumti> poi with apparently singular <sumti>===

Certain kinds of sumti tend to be interpreted as singular, like '''mi''' (presupposing a single speaker here), or perhaps a sumti formed with '''zo'''. What effect does using '''poi''' on a sumti like this have, and what does this tell us about '''poi'''?

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=Selbri-based descriptions=

==Relative clause placements==

A selbri-based description is a sumti made from a gadri plus a selbri, e.g. '''lo plise'''. With selbri-based descriptions there are three different places a relative clause (abbreviated <rel>) can go:

{{mu|lo <rel> broda <rel> ku <rel>}}

By definition, a relative clause that appears between gadri and selbri is equivalent to one that appears after the '''ku''':

{{mu|lo <rel> broda}}

is equivalent to:

{{mu|lo broda ku <rel>}}

Because they are equivalent we will only analyse the case where the relative clause follows '''ku''' to avoid duplication.

If the relative clause is placed between selbri and '''ku''' then the meaning changes compared to the other two cases above.

Below we will examine the different possibilities, '''lo broda poi''', '''lo broda noi''', '''lo broda ku poi''' and '''lo broda ku noi''' in detail.

==Inner relative clauses - lo <selbri> NOI==

===lo <selbri> poi===

[...]

Quite a different case is '''lo broda poi brode''', where the relative clause is placed between selbri and '''ku'''. Here, '''poi''' semantically acts even before '''lo''' to define the initial predicate of which '''lo''' then extracts the x1. The resulting predicate has the same referent set as the conjunction of the initial predicate and the relative clause.

{{mu|lo broda poi brode}}

A '''poi''' in this position is exactly equivalent to '''je poi'i''':

{{mu|lo broda je poi'i ke'a brode}}

And this is equivalent to:

{{mu|lo poi'i ke'a broda gi'e brode}}

Since the inner '''poi''' merely defines the initial referents of the sumti, it has no bearing on outer quantifiers. '''lo broda poi brode ku''' is really just a specific case of '''lo <selbri> ku'''.

For example:

{{mu|lo plise poi xunre}}

Yields a sumti that refers to red apples. Let's examine the logic in a full sentence:

{{lm|mi lebna lo mu plise poi xunre|<math>\text{plise}(c) \land \text{xunre}(c) \land \text{mumei}(c); \text{lebna}(\text{mi}, c)</math>|"I take the five red apples."}}

Now the same example with an additional outer quantifier:

{{mu|mi lebna re lo mu plise poi xunre}}
{{lm|re da poi ke'a me lo mu plise poi xunre zo'u mi da lebna|<math>\text{plise}(c) \land \text{xunre}(c) \land \text{mumei}(c); \: [2x \colon x \subseteq c]\colon \: \text{lebna}(\text{mi}, x)</math>|"I take two of the five red apples."}}

[...]

What happens, when '''poi''' is outside the '''ku'''? Then we get a case we've already covered: '''<sumti> poi broda''' (we recall that '''<sumti> poi broda''' is the same as '''lo me <sumti> je broda''', which is the same as '''lo poi'i ke'a me <sumti> gi'e broda'''). But we will consider this case in more detail later.

Now, what about inner '''noi'''?

===lo <selbri> noi===

[...]

{{mu|lo broda noi brode}}

{{mu|lo poi'i ke'a broda (to ri brode toi)}}

[...]

{{lm|lo plise noi xunre cu kukte|<math>\text{plise}(c); \: \text{xunre}(c); \: \text{kukte}(c)</math>}}

At first glance this looks identical to (5.2) ('''lo plise poi xunre cu kukte''')

{{lm|lo plise poi xunre cu kukte|<math>\text{plise}(c) \land \text{xunre}(c); \: \text{kukte}(c)</math>}}

(not even a negation could cause a difference here, because the sentence contains nothing but constants)

As we've seen above, an inner '''poi''' clause attaches directly to the selbri, in a sense restricting the referent set of the predicate by replacing the single predicate with a conjunction of it and another predicate.

In other words, the '''poi''' in '''lo broda poi brode''' creates a new predicate <math>H</math> that has the same referent set as <math>F \land G</math>.

In this sense, '''poi''' performs a restrictive roll, even in the absence of any logical quantifiers. '''noi''', however, is the non-restrictive counterpart. It, too, will try to attach directly to the predicate, but without restricting the referent set of the resulting predicate. This means that it does not create a new predicate, or, perhaps more accurately, the referent set of <math>F \land G</math> in the case of '''noi''' is equivalent to that of the lone predicate <math>F</math>.

The nuance here is more subtle than with quantifiers and applies directly to the universe of discourse. Let's build an analogue between the quantified noi/poi distinction we already understand, and the inner noi/poi distinction to see the parallels:

{{lm|Q da poi ke'a brode cu broda|<math>[\square x \colon \text{brode}(x)]\colon \: \text{broda}(x)</math>|"English"}}

[...]

{{lm|Q da noi ke'a brode cu broda|<math>[\square x]\colon \: \text{broda}(x); \: [\forall y \colon \text{brode}(y)]\colon \: \text{broda}(y)</math>|"English"}}

As covered much earlier, the '''noi''' implies a universal quantifier, because that's the only logical way that a conjunction can have the same referent set as the predicates in isolation. A similar thing could be said about inner '''noi''', let's compare:

{{mu|lo broda poi brode cu brodi (replace with actual words!!)}}

{{mu|lo poi'i ke'a broda gi'e brode cu brodi|"English"}}

But in keeping with the theme of creating a new predicate, let's introduce a '''me'au''':

{{lm|lo me'au lo ka broda je lo ka brode cu brodi|<math>\text{broda}(c) \land \text{brode}(c); \: \text{brodi}(c)</math>|"English"}}

The sumti is now very clearly one whose referent(s) satisfy the conjunction of two predicates. What about '''noi'''?

{{mu|lo broda noi brode cu brodi}}

{{lm|lo me'au lo ka broda cu brodi .i ro'oi me'au lo ka broda cu me'au lo ka brode|<math>\text{ka}(c_F, \text{broda}); \: \text{ka}(c_G, \text{brode}); \: \text{ckaji}(c, c_F) \land \text{ckaji}(c, c_G); \: \text{brodi}(c)</math>|"English"}}

This could be written simpler if Lojban had a non-restrictive version of '''je''' (something I've proposed it should have), but it doesn't.

Thus, we can conclude that the previous example implies a universe of discourse where <math>F</math> and <math>F \land G</math> have the same referent set, or put another way, in which for all things, being broda entails being brode.

No such implication occurs in the '''poi''' version.

Again: Inner '''poi''' creates a new predicate that has the same referent set as the conjunction of the two conjoined predicates.

Inner '''noi''' does not create a conjunction, but rather comments on the predicate saying that being '''broda''' also means being '''brode''' (in the current universe of discourse).

==Outer relative clauses - lo <selbri> ku NOI==

===lo <selbri> ku poi===

If you have read everything above, then this section contains no truly new information.

'''lo <selbri> ku''' is a case of '''<sumti>''', and we already know how '''<sumti>''' interacts with quantifiers and relative clauses. There isn't anything new to understand here, but we'll look at an example regardless:

{{lm|lo mu plise ku poi xunre cu kukte|<math>\text{plise}(c_p) \land \text{mumei}(c_p); \: c \subseteq c_p \land \text{xunre}(c); \: \text{kukte}(c)</math>|"The red ones among the five apples are delicious."}}

[...]

===lo <selbri> ku noi===

Again, '''lo <selbri> ku noi''' is a case of '''<sumti> noi''', which was covered earlier.

{{lm|lo mu plise ku noi xunre cu kukte|<math>\text{plise}(c_p) \land \text{mumei}(c_p); \: \text{kukte}(c_p); \: \text{xunre}(c_p)</math>|"The five apples, which are red, are delicious."}}

[...]

==PA lo <selbri> ku poi==

We shall now examine the most complicated case, an outer quantifier paired with an outer '''poi''', and then '''noi'''.

{{mu|re lo mu plise ku poi xunre cu kukte}}

Interpretation 1:
{{lm|re da poi ke'a me lo mu plise gi'e xunre cu kukte|<math>\text{plise}(c) \land \text{mumei}(c); \: [2x \colon x \subseteq c \land \text{xunre}(c)]\colon \: \text{kukte}(c)</math>|"Two things that are among the five apples and are red are delicious."}}

Interpretation 2:
{{lm|re lo poi'i ke'a me lo mu plise gi'e xunre cu kukte|<math>\text{plise}(c_{\text{plise}}) \land \text{mumei}(c_{\text{plise}}); \: c \subseteq c_{\text{plise}} \land \text{xunre}(c); \: [2x \colon x \subseteq c]\colon \: \text{kukte}(x)</math>|"Two things that are among those things which are among the five apples and red are delicious."}}

With this example, the two interpretations give the same result, the same number of delicious apples. However, the next example shows the inadequacy of interpretation 1:

{{mu|lo pulji cu arrest ro lo panono panja'o ku poi sruri lo dinju}}

(Note by the way, that the same sentence with inner '''poi''' would translate to English as ''"The police arrested each of the 100 building-surrounding demonstrators"'', i.e., all 100 both demonstrated and surrounded the building)

Let us again examine the two possible interpretations:

Interpretation 1:

{{lm|lo pulji cu arrest ro da poi ke'a me lo panono panja'o gi'e sruri lo dinju|<math>\text{pulji}(c_{\text{pulji}}); \: \text{panjaho}(c_{\text{panjaho}}) \land \text{panonomei}(c_{\text{panjaho}}); \: \text{dinju}(c_{\text{dinju}}); \: [\forall x \colon x \subseteq c_{\text{panjaho}} \land \text{sruri}(x,c_{\text{dinju}})]\colon \: \text{arrest}(c_{\text{pulji}}, x)</math>|"The police arrested each thing that was among the one hundred demonstrators and that surrounded the building."}}

Interpretation 2:

{{lm|lo pulji cu arrest ro lo poi'i ke'a me lo panono panja'o gi'e sruri lo dinju|<math>logic</math>|"The police arrested each of those among the 100 demonstrators that surrounded the building."}}

(100 people were demonstrating, some of them surrounded the building, and all of those got arrested)

With interpretation 1 the police didn't actually arrest anyone! (unless we're dealing with relatives of Mister Fantastic or Plastic Man)

This is because interpretation 1 does not account for non-distributive plural predication, while interpretation 2 does.

Therefore, interpretation 2 is the way to go. As a bonus, it also happens to result in fewer rules, which is always good.

==PA lo <selbri> ku noi==

What if the outer '''poi''' in the previous example is replaced with outer '''noi'''?

{{mu|mi lebna ci lo mu plise ku noi xunre}}

Interpretation 1:

{{lm|mi lebna ci lo mu plise .i ro plise poi mi lebna ke'a cu xunre|<math>\text{plise}(c) \land \text{mumei}(c); \: [3x \colon x \subseteq c]\colon \: \text{lebna}(\text{mi}, x); \: [\forall y \colon \text{plise}(y) \land \text{lebna}(\text{mi}, y)]\colon \: \text{xunre}(y)</math>|"I take three of the five apples. Each apple that I take is red."}}

(Note that the '''noi''' version differs significantly from a hypothetical '''poi''' version. With '''noi''' we know that exactly three apples are taken. With '''poi''' we know that three red apples are taken, but not whether any non-red apples are taken)

Interpretation 2:

{{lm|lo mu plise cu xunre .i mi lebna ci ri|<math>\text{plise}(c) \land \text{mumei}(c); \: \text{xunre}(c); \: [3x \colon x \subseteq c]\colon \: \text{lebna}(\text{mi}, x)</math>|"The five apples are red. I take three of them."}}

Again, both interpretations yield the same number of red apples taken by the speaker (three red apples), but they get to that result by different mechanisms. Which one is correct? Interpretation 1 parallels Interpretation 1 of the '''poi''', and interpretation 2 parallels interpretation 2. We saw that interpretation two of '''poi''' was better, does the same apply to '''noi'''?

Let's consider '''noi''' in the context of the demonstrators that surrounded the building:

{{mu|lo pulji cu arrest reno lo panono panja'o ku noi sruri lo dinju}}

Interpretation 1:

{{lm|lo pulji cu arrest reno da poi ke'a menre lo panono panja'o .i ro panja'o poi lo pulji cu arrest ke'a cu sruri lo dinju|<math>\text{pulji}(c_{\text{pulji}}); \: \text{panjaho}(c_{\text{panjaho}}) \land \text{panonomei}(c_{\text{panjaho}}); \: [20x \colon x \subseteq c_{\text{panjaho}}]\colon \: \text{arrest}(c_{\text{pulji}}, x); \: \text{dinju}(c_{\text{dinju}}); \: [\forall y \colon \text{panjaho}(y) \land \text{arrest}(c_{\text{pulji}}, y)]\colon \: \text{sruri}(y, c_{\text{dinju}})</math>|"The police arrested 20 of the 100 demonstrators. Each demonstrator that the police arrested was surrounding the building."}}

Note that this does not mean that it's necessarily the case that nobody else among the demonstrators surrounded the building. It does however say that each single arrested demonstrator surrounded the building individually, which is not the intended meaning, and likely a very bizarre situation. Maybe that's why the police felt the need to arrest them.

Interpretation 2:

{{lm|lo panono panja'o cu sruri lo dinju .i lo pulji cu arrest reno lo go'i|<math>logic</math>|"The 100 demonstrators were surrounding the building. The police arrested 20 of them."}}

This says that in fact all 100 demonstrators were building-surrounders. Thus, any 20 that the police could arrest automatically are building-surrounders also. Additionally, interpretation 2 again does what interpretation 1 does not: account for plural quantification.

But what if we do want to say that what interpretation 1 said (minus the distributivity)?. We might not want to claim each demonstrater a building-surrounder. We might want to say that each arrested demonstrator was a building-surrounder, no, that each arrested demonstrator was ''among'' building-surrounders. Well, we can:

{{mu|lo pulji cu arrest ro reno lo panono panja'o ku poi sruri lo dinju}}

{{lm|lo pulji cu arrest ro reno lo poi'i ke'a me lo panono panja'o gi'e sruri lo dinju|<math>logic</math>|"The police arrested all 20 of those that were among the 100 demonstrators and that surrounded the building."}}

lo==Relative clauses and la==

la broda NOI

la NOI broda ku'o broda

When to put '''la''' first, and when to put it last?

[...]

{{mu|Lojban|''"English"''}}

[...]

==lo mi <selbri>==

==la and relative clauses==

"President Obama", "Teris the tiger".

[...]

la broda poi
la broda ku poi

la broda noi
la broda ku noi

po'u la broda

[...]

=ma NOI=

First, let's recap how the question word '''ma''' (as well as all the other question words) behave.
ma always has top-scope, no matter how deeply nested it appears in a sentence. (1) and (2) are equivalent:
(1) do djica lo nu mi zukte ma
"You want me to do what?"
"What do you want me to do?"
(2) ma poi'i do djica lo nu mi zukte ke'a
"What is such that you want me to do it?"
"What is it you want me to do?"
However, if we wish to restrict the referent pool of the question word, the familiar method of using poi (as in (3)) may not be semantically accurate -- the desired expansion of (3) is (4), but the actual meaning is (5). The difference might be subtle and difficult to spot, but it's there, and it means that we should find a new way to say "which/what".
(3) do pu kanpe lo nu mi cuxna ma poi taxfu
(4) ma taxfu gi'e poi'i do pu kanpe lo nu mi cuxna ke'a
(5) ma poi'i do pu kanpe lo nu mi cuxna ke'a poi taxfu
ma poi'i do pu kanpe lo nu mi cuxna lo me ke'a je taxfu
One option might be to use noi instead of poi (as in (6)), another would be to use mo (as in (7)).
(6) do pu kanpe lo nu mi cuxna ma noi taxfu
(7) do pu kanpe lo nu mi cuxna lo mo taxfu
"What kind of clothes did you expect me to choose?"
"[The] what-clothes did you expect me to choose?"
Both methods leave something to be desired. Even if noi has the right semantics, it still requires a terminator and a ke'a, while using mo can be vague (since it's a tanru) and it can be awkward to use.

Therefore, it might be a good idea to create a new gadri X (in selma'o LO) that has the semantics of (4) but keeps the wh in-situ capability of (3). In other words, '''ko'a broda X brode''' would be defined as '''ma brode gi'e poi'i ko'a broda ke'a'''.

It remains to be decided how that new gadri should be spelled.

=Summary=

[...]

There are only two rules to learn, two rules, which explain every possible combination of quantifiers and relative clauses.

[...]

With this, we have covered every possible case of relative clauses.

=Conversion formulas=

{| class="wikitable"
|-
| '''su'o da poi ke'a brode cu broda''' || '''su'o da ge brode gi broda'''
|-
| '''ro da poi ke'a brode cu broda''' || '''ro da ga nai brode cu broda'''
|-
| '''PA <selbri>''' || '''PA da poi ke'a <selbri>'''
|-
| '''PA <sumti>''' || '''PA da poi ke'a me <sumti>'''
|-
| '''PA da noi ke'a broda cu brode''' || '''PA da broda .i ro broda cu brode'''
|-
| '''<sumti> noi ke'a broda cu brode''' || '''<sumti> brode .i <sumti> broda'''
|-
| '''<sumti> poi ke'a broda''' || '''lo me <sumti> je poi'i ke'a broda lo poi'i ke'a me <sumti> gi'e broda'''
|-
| '''lo broda poi brode''' || '''lo broda je poi'i ke'a brode''' '''lo poi'i ke'a broda gi'e brode'''
|-
| '''lo broda noi brode''' || '''lo broda (to ro'oi broda cu brode toi)'''
|-
| '''lo broda ku poi brode''' || '''lo poi'i ke'a me lo broda gi'e brode'''
|-
| '''lo broda ku noi brode''' || '''lo broda ku (to ri brode toi)'''
|-
| '''lo NOI ke'a brode ku'o broda''' || '''lo broda ku NOI brode'''
|}

==Conversion to and from relative phrases==

{| class="wikitable"
|-
| '''pe <sumti>''' || '''poi ke'a co'e <sumti>'''
|-
| '''ne <sumti>''' || '''noi ke'a co'e <sumti>'''
|-
| '''po'u <sumti>''' || '''poi ke'a du <sumti>'''
|-
| '''no'u <sumti>''' || '''noi ke'a du <sumti>'''
|-
| '''goi <sumti>''' || '''noi ca'e ke'a du <sumti>'''
|}

joi

2018-10-28T14:51:24Z

Ractu: citing my sources!

=BPFK Sections=
*[[BPFK_Section:_Non-logical_Connectives#cmavo:_joi_.28JOI.29]]
*[[BPFK_Section:_Non-logical_Connectives#Formal_definitions]]
** '''X''' joi '''Y''' = lo gunma be '''X''' .e '''Y'''

=[https://lojban.github.io/cll/14/14/ CLL 14.14 Non-logical connectives]=
(Link added for reference — but all the usual disclaimers apply: CLL says quite contradictory things about '''joi''' and '''jo'u'''.)

=gimste definition=

non-logical connective: mixed conjunction; 'and' meaning 'mixed together', forming a mass.

=la lalxu's diagram=
[[File:e-vs-johu-vs-joi.png]]

=xorxes's Lojban jbovlaste definition=

nalylogji jonma'o .i te jorne le li'erla'i le se li'erla'i ja'e lo gunma

''Non-logical connective. Joins the preceding argument and the following argument, with-result: a '''gunma'''.''

This is compatible with the BPFK definition above (whew!) when taking the resulting '''gunma''' to satisfy '''gunma le li'erla'i .e le se li'erla'i'''.

=broda joi brodu=

That definition is fine for '''SUMTI joi SUMTI''', but what about tanru units? The resulting '''broda joi brodu''' can't be a '''gunma''' (mass).

la ŭakci suggests the following semantics [source: #ckule on Oct 28, 2018]:

«da broda joi brodu» →
1) da broda i je da brodu;
2) su’o di zo’u da ckaji di i je lo ka broda kei je lo ka brodu cu pagbu di;
2a) lo ka broda kei je lo ka brodu cu simsa di;
2b) lo ka broda je brodu na du di.

joi

2018-10-28T14:48:36Z

Ractu: (no depybu'i on my name please)

=BPFK Sections=
*[[BPFK_Section:_Non-logical_Connectives#cmavo:_joi_.28JOI.29]]
*[[BPFK_Section:_Non-logical_Connectives#Formal_definitions]]
** '''X''' joi '''Y''' = lo gunma be '''X''' .e '''Y'''

=[https://lojban.github.io/cll/14/14/ CLL 14.14 Non-logical connectives]=
(Link added for reference — but all the usual disclaimers apply: CLL says quite contradictory things about '''joi''' and '''jo'u'''.)

=gimste definition=

non-logical connective: mixed conjunction; 'and' meaning 'mixed together', forming a mass.

=la lalxu's diagram=
[[File:e-vs-johu-vs-joi.png]]

=xorxes's Lojban jbovlaste definition=

nalylogji jonma'o .i te jorne le li'erla'i le se li'erla'i ja'e lo gunma

''Non-logical connective. Joins the preceding argument and the following argument, with-result: a '''gunma'''.''

This is compatible with the BPFK definition above (whew!) when taking the resulting '''gunma''' to satisfy '''gunma le li'erla'i .e le se li'erla'i'''.

=broda joi brodu=

That definition is fine for '''SUMTI joi SUMTI''', but what about tanru units? The resulting '''broda joi brodu''' can't be a '''gunma''' (mass).

la ŭakci suggests the following semantics:

«da broda joi brodu» →
1) da broda i je da brodu;
2) su’o di zo’u da ckaji di i je lo ka broda kei je lo ka brodu cu pagbu di;
2a) lo ka broda kei je lo ka brodu cu simsa di;
2b) lo ka broda je brodu na du di.

User:Gleki/turvla

2017-02-01T13:04:40Z

Ractu:

{{jbocre/en}}

'''turvla''' are words that have internal structure (like prefixes, infixes, suffixes) and the meaning of which depends on this structure. '''turjvo''' are [[lujvo]] that are '''turvla'''.

===turvla classes===
If for a given word you find more places than listed here it means this word is not a turvla.

# '''-gau''' suffix. '''x1 x2 x3 x4 ... brodygau''' unwraps into '''x1 cu gasnu lo nu x2 broda x3 x4 ...'''. Equivalent to '''x1 jai gau broda fai x2 x3 x4 ...'''
# '''-ske''' suffix. '''brodyske''' = ''x1 is the broda science, broda-ology studying particular subject x2''
# '''-pre''' suffix. '''brodypre''' means ''x1 is a brodaman, a broda-er''. Roughly corresponds to English "-er" or "-man" like "fireman" etc. Can describe only persons, not non-conscious objects.
# '''-sku''' suffix. '''brodysku''' = ''x1 says x2 (text related to broda or entity) towards x3''.
#* '''piksku''' means ''to say comment ... to ...''
#* '''retsku''' means ''to ask (say question) ... to ...''
#* '''<nowiki>ta'asku</nowiki>''' means ''to talk about ... to ...''
# '''cmacma''', '''brabra''' mean ''very small'', ''very big''. Unwrap according to [[la tsani|La Tsani]]'s Flipping Principle.
# '''bra-''' prefix. '''brabroda''' - ''something like broda and metaphorically big''. The place structure is identical to '''broda'''. '''bramlatu''' is ''Big Cat'', not ''big cat''. '''braxamsi''' is described by some not just as a ''big xamsi'' but having some new properties.
# '''cma-''' prefix generates cimjvo.
# '''tce-''' prefix. '''tcebroda''' unwraps into '''mutce lo ka ce'u broda'''
# '''zan-''' prefix is applied to the whole lujvo part after it, doesn't need '''kem''' after it. Marks the tail as something favorable, nice, cool.
# '''mal-''' prefix is applied to the whole lujvo part after it, doesn't need '''kem''' after it. Marks the tail as something bad, deplorable, shitty.
# '''zil-''' prefix. '''zilbroda''' unwraps into '''zi'o cu broda'''
# '''-nmo''' suffix to attitudinal words. '''uinmo''' means ''to be happy''.
# '''-cmi''' suffix. '''brodycmi''' is ''x1 is a member of group x2''
# '''-kansa''' suffix. '''brodykansa''' is ''x1 is a co-worker, colleague, workmate, corelegionist (brother in faith), coeval, fellow contryman/traveller etc. of x2 in '''lo nu broda'''''
# '''-sle''' suffix. '''brodysle''' is ''x1 is a cell, particle of x2''

==lo seltau that are adverbial==
* certain prefixes work as adverbs. i.e. in a lujvo with two {{jvs|selbrisle}} they dont take the position of x2 of the tertau.
** Example: '''tce-''' prefix. In '''tcebroda''' in instead puts '''broda''' into x2 of '''mutce''' in expansion.
** See also [[selskiski]].
** [https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/Fu4L7pr04gg/aitwQSBBKGgJ Cyril Slobin and Russian community] noted the same. {{vlapoi|lo|pofygau}} could be allegedly expanded into '''lo gasnu je spofu''' or '''lo gasnu poi spofu''' but in turjvo ideology this doesn't happen since '''-gau''' is a suffix having a fixed meaning.
==Undecided issues==
# '''sim-''' prefix. '''x1 ce x2 x3 x4 simbroda''' expands into '''x1 ce x2 simxu lo ka ce'u broda ce'u x3 x4'''
#* [[User:Cirko|la cirko]]: Why not use '''-si'u''' for this? '''sim-''' has been used similarly to '''zma-''' and '''trajy-''', to show that not the x1, but some other place, fits in {{jvs|simxu}}1/{{jvs|zmadu}}1/{{jvs|traji}}1.
#** [[la gleki]]: {{jvs|simbi'o}}, {{jvs|simda'a}}, {{jvs|simbasti}} are in la jbovlaste.
==Some commonly used terms==
*lujvo - a verb formally consisting of rafsi according to Lojban morphology.
**turjvo - a lujvo that has rafsi taking certain positions (slots) in the lujvo with fixed effect.
***jvajvo - a lujvo that can be unwrapped into a bridi according to rules of its consisting slotted rafsi ('''brodygau''').
***cimjvo - a lujvo the meaning (+ sometimes place structure) of which is unpredictable from its constituent rafsi ('''brabroda''').

[[Category:Trends in Lojban]]

Lojban around the world

2016-11-12T13:27:25Z

Ractu:

[[Image:redit2.png|thumb|link=]]
==1. Chats==
Improve, learn, teach Lojban in chats: text or audio/video chats. The overall goal being to establish a broad level of conversational fluency in the Lojban community.

Here are the tools to be used as primary.
=== [[Lojban Live Chat|Live chat on IRC / Telegram / Slack]]===
This is the main place of chat activity.

=== Mailing lists ===
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The [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/topics lojban-beginners mailing list] is for questions about learning and understanding Lojban. You can subscribe to the list by sending a question to [mailto:lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com].

The general-purpose [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/topics lojban mailing list], which covers anything else related to Lojban, was founded in 1989, and has about 500 subscribers. You can subscribe to it by sending an email to [mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com lojban@googlegroups.com].

===Skype and QQ ===
==== Technical rules of using Skype/QQ ====
Some people have trouble operating Skype. So here are the basic rules of a successful voice chat for Skype
# Use a group where all potential speakers share their interest in the forthcoming conference in text form only. This group already exists. It's called {ko ciska po'o tavla ...} (meaning "Talk by writing only...") This group is only for planning, not for actual talking. Ask in this mail thread to add you there.
# One person runs a desktop version of Skype and has good incoming and outcoming internet connection (~1Mbit/sec in both directions is fine).
# This person must add all interested people to his/her friend list and those people must confirm "friendship".
# This person calls the first person and after successful connection drops other people into the chat window.
# Please, everyone switch off your video by pressing on the video button so that it becomes crossed out.
# Before any conference check your microphone and audio settings of Skype. Add "echo123" user (it's a bot) to your friend list, call it and follow the instruction. Change settings of your Skype client if necessary.
# If you have noise around you during the conference or if other members notice a noise from your side switch off your microphone by pressing on the Microphone button so that it becomes crossed out.

I think that as of now Skype is preferable since it has better voice compression and buffering mechanisms preventing clicks/pauses during conversation due to unstable internet connection. As of now it's unlikely that 100% of potential students of Lojban get normal internet connection. Many even change to mobile connection dropping the level of fast + stable internet connection even more.

QQ messenger used in China tested several times with mainland China residents and non-residents works okay. Just like Skype.

==== Skype Phone Group Topics ====
Read more: [[Skype|Skype and important issues of it]].

You can arrange a voice call (phone or VoIP) with another Lojban speaker at any skill level. A lot of people have expressed concern about the phone group with respect to the "well, what would we talk about?" issue. I'm pretty sure that discussions about that will take up a lot of space, so please see the [[Phone Group Topics|Phone Group Topics]] page.

We welcome anyone, regardless of expertise, physical location or monetary resources.

To join, just add people above to your Skype friends' list and ask who might be available to talk with you.

In an ideal universe, [[Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]]'d like to see people matched up with people of very different levels of ability, to spread the expertise around as quickly as possible, but I'm not hugely attached to that.

==== Lojban On The Phone ====
Please bear in mind, everyone, that collision avoidance is hard on the phone. Please become familiar with ta'a, re'i, be'e, je'e, ki'a and ke'o. Especially that last one. :-)

Here's a [[vlaselyle'u|phonetic alphabet]] for spelling words on the phone.

==== Other tools ====
*[https://plus.google.com/111885648105308968553/posts A group] in Google+ where you can videochat in real-time with other Lojbanists less popular tools:
*[[Mumble|Mumble]]: a vocal chatroom
* [http://cinchcast.com/ Cinch] is an audio-blogging service which allows its users to record directly to the website or phone in to record.
*direct browser-to-browser chats like [http://appear.in/ appear.in].

==== About Expertise ====
The "expertise" field in the members table is currently rather informal, and you are welcome to alter yours as you feel appropriate. However, [[User:Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]] and [[User:Nick Nicholas|Nick Nicholas]] have had their expertise certified in person. The reason behind such system is the option of making the phone group into a ranking system, similar to Chess rankings. In other words, if you want to be certified Expert level, you ask Robin or Nick to take some time to call you up and basically hammer away at you for an hour. You, in turn, can then certify people at rankings below Expert (or, possibly, at or below expert).

Note that any use of word lists in any such tests would be cheating.

{{See_also|Lojban Expertise Test}}

==2. Real life clubs==
Organize in real life Lojban clubs based on your physical location on the planet:
*[[southeast Michigan Lojban group|Southeast Michigan Lojban Group]] - A group of about half a dozen Lojban enthusiasts met at [[Matt Arnold|Matt Arnold]]'s house in Redford, Michigan about every two weeks (except when college is in session, because so many of them are undergrads, grad students, or teachers). Regular attendees include [[Bruce Webber|Bruce Webber]], TheRomp, Shaun Klein, Neil Eppstein, and Alex Martini. The group has been going in one form or another since March 2005.
*A Lojban group started at Grinnell College in Iowa, in October 2006.
*[[Jay Kominek|Jay Kominek]] is interested in starting one at the University of Colorado, let him know if you're in the area.
*[[Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]] used to teach a class in the Silicon Valley area, in Northern California. He'd be willing to do so again if enough people were interested. I know two people here that would attend, but I'd be interested in other jbopre joining.
*Anagram is interested in informally gathering for a workshop of beginners in the Bakersfield, California area. Try contacting him via irc.freenode.net. My registered nick is Anagram, you may leave me a memo via memoserv.
*[[User:tsali|Arnt Richard Johansen]] will teach anyone in 'Trondheim, NO' who is interested. Contact him at arj ATT nvg dot org.
*There has been talk of some of us Southern Californian jbopre getting together in Pomona monthly. More info at [[SoCalLojbanists|SoCalLojbanists]].
* For Aussies in and around Sydney, I ([[la .djunias.]]) am looking to start a Lojban club near Macquarie University. If you're interested, please contact me!
* In Hong Kong, I ([[sorpa'as plat]]) am trying to start the [http://www.facebook.com/groups/lojbanhk Hong Kong Lojbanist Group]. [http://www.facebook.com/groups/cuhkoil/ Open Innovation Lab] once helped us organized a Lojban meetup.
Here are some of the places known to have a high concentration of Lojbanists, or some influential Lojbanists:
* Fairfax, Virginia
* New York, New York
* California
===Mark yourself on the world map===
For now a Google map is used to mark Lojbanists' location on the planet to figure out where new clubs can be organized.

[https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zsu6INucCzOM.kxkof_dbS3ZY&msa=0&ll=47.195778%2C27.590103&spn=0.254281%2C0.676346 Don't be shy to mark your location on the planet].

==3. Festivals==
Organize conferences and festivals. The only annual festival by far is [[jbonunsla]].

==Database of Lojbanists==
For fulfilling the first two goals:
{{mu|i ko jmina le cmene e lei tcila va'o le nu do se cinri le nu penmi loi drata jbopli vi le se xabju be do|Put your name and contact information here if you're interested in getting together with other Lojbanists in your area or talking via audio/video chat.}}

{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:left;"
|-
!lo cmene
!fluency
!lo gugde
!also speaks
!e-mail/id on Skype
!more precise location
! style="width: 15%;" |notes
|-
|la [[User:Bob LeChevalier|lojbab]] (lobja'a)
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:lojbab@lojban.org mrilu]
|Fairfax VA, near DC, and that's where [[Logfest|Logfest]] is always held
|a founder of the [[LLG]]. This language might not exist without him and the others he worked with to make Lojban public domain.
|-
|[[Nora LeChevalier|Nora LeChevalier]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:lojbab@lojban.org mrilu]
|Fairfax VA, near DC, and that's where [[Logfest|Logfest]] is always held
|[[lojbab]]'s wife, and has done huge amounts of work on Lojban, largely on the wordlists and software.

|-
|[[Jay Kominek|Jay Kominek]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|
|Boulder, Colorado
|

|-
|[[User:djunias|la .djunias.]]
|
|'''gugde'a'u''' ''(Australia)''
|
|
|Sydney
|I am looking to start a Lojban club near Macquarie University, Sydney. If you're interested, please contact me!

|-
|[[User:Nick Nicholas|Nick Nicholas]]
|
|'''gugde'a'u''' ''(Australia)''
|
|
|
|was the first fluent Lojban speaker (he insists that he was the second, but he's known to be excessively modest). He also has done a lot of Lojbanic writing, both writing in lojban and about it.
|-
|[[Pierre Abbat|.pier. abat.]] = Pierre Abbat
|medium
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|Francais
|[mailto:phma@phma.hn.org mrilu], skype: pierre.abbat
|North Carolina, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=412 EST]
|
|-
|[[User:.kreig.daniyl.|.kreig.daniyl.]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|
|North Carolina
|lojbo pemci finti
|-
|[[User:John Cowan|John Cowan]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|
|New York City
|the author of the [[CLL|Complete Lojban Language]]. What more can you say?
|-
|[[User:xod|la xod]] = [[InventYourself|InventYourself]]
|Intermediate
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:xod@balvi.org mrilu]
|New York City, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]
|
|-
|Edward Blevins
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:thedward@barsoom.net mrilu]
|''(Austin, TX)'') / 512.796.6661
|
|-
|Adam Raizen
|
|'''gugde'ilu''' ''<nowiki>(Israel)</nowiki>''
|
|[mailto:araizen@softhome.net mrilu]
|
|
|-
|[[Ivan Derzhanski|Ivan Derzhanski]]
|
|'''lo gugdebugu''' ''(Болгария)''
|
|
|
|
|-
|[[User: Broca|Arnt Richard Johansen]] = [[User:tsali|tsali]] = Broca
|intermediate
|'''lo gugdenu'o''' ''(Norway)''
|
|[mailto:arj@nvg.org mrilu]
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=288 CET]
|
|-
|Raphaël Poss
|
|'''lo gugdefuru''' ''(France)''
|
|[mailto:r.poss@online.fr mrilu]
|
|
|-
|[[User:.jexOm.|jexOm.]] = JérômeDesquilbet
|
|'''lo gugdefuru''' ''(France)''
|
|
|
|
|-
|[[User:Ilmen|la .ilmen.]]
|
|'''lo gugdefuru''' ''(France)''
|
|
|
|
|-
|[[User:Mark Shoulson|Mark Shoulson]] aka '''clsn''', '''.mark.'''
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|
|in New Jersey
|
|-
|[[Theodore Reed|Theodore Reed]] = rizen = bancus
|medium
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto: rizen@surreality.us mrilu], skype: tedreed
|Ontario, Southern California, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=865 PST]
|
|-
|[[User:John Clifford|John Clifford]] = [[pc]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|
|St. Louis, MO
|
|-
|[[djin|djin]].meiz.
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:emaas@hotpop.com mrilu]
|Tidewater/Hampton Roads, VA
|
|-
|[[Robin Lee Powell]]
|expert
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org mrilu], skype: rlpowell
|Northern California, the Silicon Valley area, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=900 PST]
|[http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ his web site]. Yours truly, is the current webmaster of this site and the provider of the machine and bandwidth it is served from.
|-
|[[Xavier|xavier]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|
|school is in Rochester, NY, but himself is from Newton, MA.
|
|-
|stevo
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com mrilu]
|Cincinnati, OH
|
|-
|[[Matt Arnold|Matt Arnold]] = '''epkat''' = Eppcott
|beginner
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:matt.mattarn@gmail.com mrilu], skype: matt_arnold
|Detroit/Ann Arbor, Michigan, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=77 EST]
|
|-
|[[User:Björn Gohla|Björn Gohla]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|
|
|http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~bjoern/
|-
|[[User:Lindar|Lindar Greenwood]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:lindarthebard@yahoo.com mrilu]
|Hollywood, California, willing to travel to (almost) any part of LA county for meetings.
|
|-
|[[Jeremy Way|rem.klajis]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|
|Phoenixville, Chester County, pa
|
|-
|la [[.alyn.post.|.alyn.post.]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|
|xabju lo la'o .gy. Rio Grande .gy. rirxe ma'arbi'i pe la'o .gy. New Mexico .gy.
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|-
|Mike Fairhurst
|
|
|
|[mailto:michaelrfairhurst@hotmail.com mrilu]
|looking for Lojbanists around Portland, Oregon
|or facebook me
|-
|Twitch
|
|
|
|[mailto:sirrustemplar@madriver.com mrilu]
|learning lojban in Montpelier, Vermont
|would love to work with others
|-
|cizyprijev
|
|
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|[mailto:osiris_hades_deathland@hotmail.com mrilu]
|
|https://twitter.com/#!/cizyprijev
|-
|[[James Cooke Brown|Dr. James Cooke Brown]]
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|lived in the US
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|-
|Avital Oliver
|
|'''gugde'ilu''' ''<nowiki>(Israel)</nowiki>''
|
|[mailto:olivera@macs.biu.ac.il mrilu]
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|Alex (Sasha) Gontmakher
|
|'''gugde'ilu''' ''<nowiki>(Israel)</nowiki>''
|
|[mailto:gsasha@cs.technion.ac.il mrilu]
|
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|-
|[[User:xorxes|Jorge Llambías]] aka '''la .xorxes.'''
|
|'''lo gugde'aru''' ''(Argentina)''
|
|[mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com mrilu]
|
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|-
|[[User:Tsani|la tsani]]
|
|'''lo gugdecu'a''' ''(Canada)''
|
|
|Montreal
|
|-
|[[Adam Lopresto|Adam Lopresto]] = Eimi = '''la xalbo'''
|expert
|'''lo gugdecu'a''' ''(Canada)''
|
|[mailto:adam@pubcrawler.org mrilu], skype: adamlopresto
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=605 CDT]
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|[[User:nonong|Viktor Medrano]]
|
|'''lo gugdecu'a''' ''(Canada)''
|
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|.i mi zvati le lulus. zei daplu
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|-
|[[User:Gleki|la gleki]]
|
|'''lo gugderu'u''' ''(Россия)''
|русский
|
|
|основной контакт для русскоговорящих
|-
|[[Russian Lojban community|Русскоязычное сообщество]]
|
|'''lo gugderu'u''' ''(Россия)''
|
|
|
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|-
|[[User:Cyril Slobin|Cyril Slobin]]
|
|'''lo gugderu'u''' ''(Россия)''
|русский
|[mailto:cyril@slobin.pp.ru mrilu]
|Москва
|http://slobin.pp.ru/english.html
|-
|Ark Balandin
|expert
|'''lo gugderu'u''' ''(Россия)''
|русский
|skype: ark.balandin
|GMT + 4
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|-
|A. W. Tüting ([[.aulun.|.aulun.]])
|
|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')
|
|[mailto:Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de mrilu]
|
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|[[Timo Paulssen|Timo Paulssen]] = timonator
|
|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')
|Deutsch
|[mailto:timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de mrilu]
|
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|[[User:Björn Gohla|Björn Gohla]]
|
|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')
|
|[mailto:b.gohla@gmx.de mrilu]
|
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|-
|[[Philip Newton|Philip Newton]] = [[pne|pne]] = .filip.
|beginner
|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')
|
|[mailto:pne@writeme.com mrilu]
|Hamburg, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=307 CEST]
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|Jens Gutzeit = [[.iens.|.iens.]]
|
|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')
|
|[mailto:jens@jgutzeit.de mrilu]
|Berlin
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|-
|[[User:Iesk|.iesk.]]
|
|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')
|
|[mailto:pa.fae@gmx.de mrilu]
|berti dotygu'e
|
|-
|[[User:selpa'i|la selpa'i]]
|
|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')
|
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|Berlin
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|-
|[[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] = [[And Rosta|And Rosta]] = AndRosta
|
|'''lo gugdegubu''' ''(United Kingdom)''
|
|
|London & Preston.
|No point meeting me if you want to practice Lojban conversation! I have never really got round to learning such conversationally vital stuff as gismu, BAI, tense, UI... That doesn't mean I'm not willing to try a bit, tho.
|-
|[[Colin Fine|Colin Fine]]
|
|'''lo gugdegubu''' ''(United Kingdom)''
|
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|-
|[[User:.evgenis.|Evgenii Sklyanin]] = la .evgenis.
|
|'''lo gugdegubu''' ''(United Kingdom)''
|
|[mailto:eks2@york.ac.uk mrilu]
|York
|earlier in St. Petersburg
|-
|[[.greg.|greg.]], Gryon, Gregory Dyke
|Beginner
|'''lo gugdecuxe''' ''(Switzerland)''
|
|[mailto:gvd@easy.com mrilu], [mailto: epfl@lojban.org mrilu]
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=945 CET]
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|Veijo Vilva (veion)
|
|'''lo gugdefu'i''' ''(Suomi)''
|
|[mailto:veijo.vilva@gmail.com mrilu]
|Porvoo/Borgå
|http://galactinus.net/vilva/
|-
|Martin Norbäck, G?org, norpan on irc
|beginner
|'''lo gugrsferie''' ''(Sweden)''
|
|[mailto:d95mback@dtek.chalmers.se mrilu]
|
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|-
|[[ShaeErisson]]
|
|'''lo gugrsferie''' ''(Sweden)''
|
|[mailto:shae@ScannedInAvian.com mrilu]
|Boden
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|Roger Norling
|
|'''lo gugrsferie''' ''(Sweden)''
|
|[mailto:r_norling@bredband.net mrilu]
|Sundsvall
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|Marek Rogalski
|
|'''lo gugdepulu''' ''(Polska)''
|polska
|[mailto:mafikpl@gmail.com mrilu]
|
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|[[User:solri|Robin Turner]] aka '''la solri'''
|
|'''lo gugdeturu''' ''(Türkiye)''
|
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|finti la'oi [[L4B]]
|-
|[[User:durka42|Alex Burka]] aka '''la durka'''
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|español
|[mailto:lojban@alexburka.com mrilu]
|Philadelphia
|

|-
|[[Jordan DeLong|Jordan DeLong]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:fracture@allusion.net mrilu]
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=75 CST]
|

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|[[selckiku|selckiku]] = Brett Douglas Williams = mungojelly
|expert
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|[mailto:selckiku@gmail.com mrilu], skype: selckiku
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]
|
|-
|[[User:Stephen Weeks|Stephen Weeks]] = Tene
|intermediate
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|[mailto:tene@allalone.org mrilu], skype: srweeks
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=220 MST]
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|[[Xavier|Steve Pomeroy]] = ?
|Beginner
|
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|[mailto:steve@staticfree.info mrilu]
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]
|
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|Kevin Reid = kpreid
|Intermediate
|
|
|[mailto:kpreid@mac.com mrilu], skype: kpreid
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=179 EDT]
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|Alex Martini = aleks
|Beginner/Intermediate
|
|
|[mailto:alexjm@umich.edu mrilu], skype: amartini51
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]
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|Jonathan Strickland = djanatyn
|Beginner/Intermediate
|
|
|[mailto:djanatyn@gmail.com mrilu]
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=179 EDT]
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|William McMillian = Very_Bill
|Beginner
|
|
|[mailto: mrilu], skype: William McMillian
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=220 MDT]
|
|-
|[[User:.rem.klajis.|Remy Way]] = remklajis
|Beginner/Intermediate
|
|
|[mailto:rem.klajis@gmail.com mrilu], skype: rem.klajis
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]
|
|-
|Gianmarco Molino = mercrutio
|Beginner
|
|
|[mailto:mercrutio.undefined@gmail.com mrilu], skype: mercrutio.11235813
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=220 MDT]
|
|-
|Ashley P. = eclen
|Beginner
|
|
|[mailto:ashley.akakuro@gmail.com mrilu], skype: kiriel.ambar
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]
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|[[User:Cein|cein]]
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|[[User:Michael Helsem|.maiky'elsym.]] = graywyvern
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|finti lo lojbo pemci
|-
|la [[rab.spir|rab.spir]]
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|
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|finti lo [[jbozgiMusic|jbozgi]]
|-
|[[John Schock|John Schock]] = '''.djancak.'''
|
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|[[User:.aionys.|.aionys.]] = eyeonus
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|[[Athelstan]]
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|[[Goran Topic|Goran Topic]]
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|[[.iusris.|.iusris.]]
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|[[jemna|John Leuner]]
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|[[jezrax|jezrax]]
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|[[User:Adam Cooper|komfo,amonan]] = Adam Cooper = adamgarrigus
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|[[User:.lidaniyl.|.lidaniyl.]]
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|[[LordBrain|LordBrain]]
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|[[marktillinghast|marktillinghast]]
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|[[User:PlasticRaven|Plastic Raven]]
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|[[User:skaryzgik|skaryzgik]] = Marjorie Scherf
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|[[tinkit|tinkit]]
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|Oren Robinson
|
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|普通话
|[mailto:get.oren@gmail.com mrilu]
|
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|-
|Leonardo Molas
|
|
|español
|[mailto:leos.molas@gmail.com mrilu]
|
|
|-
|rprije
|Intermediate
|
|
|skype: robreim3
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/time/zone/china/beijing UTC+8]
|
|-
|Brendan (Tang Wei), ahbrendan
|Beginner
|
|
|[mailto:ahbrendan@gmail.com mrilu], skype: ahbrendan
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/time/zone/china/beijing UTC+8]
|
|-
|la .dzyLON. (Zilong Li)
|Beginner
|lo gugdecunu (中國)
|普通話, 한국어, español
|[mailto:zilongli@outlook.lv mrilu], skype: zhuanshulicao
|[https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zone/south-korea/seoul UTC+9]
|
|-
|[[User:Ramcinfo|la ramcinfo]], Dmitry Kourmyshov, mindszenty on irc
|beginner
|'''lo gugderu'u''' ''(Россия)''
|English
|[mailto:mantycore@gmail.com mrilu]
|St.Petersburg
|
|
|-
|[[User:mark.xafirkamp.|mark.xafirkamp]]
|panoce'i lo gismu .e xo lo cmavo ''(10% of gismu and ??? cmavo)''
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|'''lo glibau''' ''(English)'' '''mi milxe lo sanbau djuno''' ''(Español, pero solamente un poco)''
|
|Flagstaff, Arizona
|I'm interested in meeting any jbopre in Flagstaff and talking with technology/computer/programming-oriented jbopre around the world. .i mi nintadni lo jbobau .i mi na kakne lo nu tavla fo lo jbobau kei ku lo nu na ralte lo jbobau vlacku
|-
|[[User:Ractu|la uakci]] = Bruno Panasiewicz
|fluent
|'''lo gugdepulu''' ''(Polska)''
|'''lo bangupulu''' ''(Polski)'', '''lo glibau''' ''(English)'', '''lo ponbau sei tolcre''' ''(Japanese, kind of)''
|[mailto:ciuak.prog@gmail.com mrilu], Skype: bruno.panasiewicz, Discord: uakci, Twitter: @la_ractu
|UTC+1 (Krakow) (DST: UTC+2)
|

|-
|[[User:timoteios|timoteios]]
|very basic
|'''lo gugde'a'u''' ''(Australia)''
|'''lo glibau''' (English)
'''lo fasybau''' (très mal français)
|[[User:timoteios|timoteios]]
|Brisbane, Australia
|A room would be available if you wanted to stay in Australia for a holiday.

|}

==Organizations==
===[[The Logical Language Group]]===
... and its affiliated organizations
==== Contacting The LLG by e-mail ====
You can contact the LLG by e-mail using our [http://www.lojban.org/llg/feedback.php our web-based e-mail form], or the list of e-mail addresses below.
*Web Master [mailto:webmaster@lojban.org webmaster@lojban.org]
*President [mailto:president@lojban.org president@lojban.org]
*Vice President [mailto:vp@lojban.org vp@lojban.org]
*Secretary/Treasurer [mailto:treasurer@lojban.org treasurer@lojban.org]
*General Inquiries [mailto:lojban@lojban.org lojban@lojban.org]
==== Contacting The LLG by postal mail ====
The Logical Language Group, Inc.

2904 Beau Lane

Fairfax, VA 22031, USA

(703) 385-0273

== Less known places ==
The Lojban community has a vibrant and growing online presence. Only a portion of Lojban websites are listed here, as this community is growing and changing too fast to list them all.

This section contains a list of various forums in which people discuss Lojban or discuss in Lojban, in approximate order of popularity as far as the main community is aware.

===Learning websites===
[http://laxmahispajispaji.blogspot.com/ la laxma'i spaji spaji, the bilingual Lojban/English blog], can be helpful for learning both how various English idioms may be translated into Lojban, and how to use a wide range of Lojban cmavo (mainly in a narrative tone).

=== Mailing lists ===
Other than the primary mailing lists, the following special interest lists exist:
* [http://lojban.freeforums.net/ Lojban FreeForums]
* [http://groups.google.com/group/jbofanva jbofanva] is a mailing list for translation projects.
* http://lojban.livejournal.com/
* [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-announcements/ The Lojban Announcements Mailing List] is for single posts on topics of general community interest.
All posts to this list are moderated, and all must include a description for where followup conversation should go. For example: "there are now Lojban flashcards on smart.fm; follow up discussion should go to the Beginners list" (but presumably with more detail). This is ''NOT'' a discussion list. The list does not set Reply-To, so you should set it to where you want followup discussion to go, if you know how.

The announcement list sends to just about every Lojban email list there is. People can also subscribe to it directly, if they want to get announcements of general community interest but do not want to be on the main mailing lists.

Anything likely to be of interest to large segments of the Lojban community is on topic. In particular, "I'm starting Lojbanic project X and need help/feedback" is what the list is primarily intended for.
* [http://groups.google.com/group/xedbig/ xedbig], AKA Hedwig, a private, moderated list with rules (you must be nice, you must speak in Lojban, and you may not criticise how other people speak Lojban)

* [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-pl/ lojban-pl], the Polish Lojban list
* [http://groups.google.com/group/budjo/ budjo], for discussion of Buddhism

* [http://groups.google.com/group/kasyjda/ kasyjda], for discussion of the chaos religions, such as Discordianism
* [http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list/ the bpfk mailing list], for language development issues

* [http://groups.google.com/group/xadni/ xadni], a largely unused list for discussion of the experience of having a body, or something like that
* lo jbocertu cu bau casnu vecu'u [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jbosnu/ la jbosnu] (nothing but spam these days)

* The [http://www.lojban.org/lists/jboske/ jboske], or lojbanic science list was used for extremely detailed discussions of technical and linguistic issues related to Lojban.
* [http://groups.google.com/group/jefnuz/ jefnuz] is a subscribe-and-don't-post list for receiving the weekly community news.
* [http://groups.google.com/group/snakarni/ snakarni] is a list for audio-bloggers, especially for CinchCast users.
* [http://groups.google.com/group/lojhbanistoj/ Loĵbanistoj] is a lojban mailing list where discussions occur in Esperanto
* [https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/lojban-zasni/ lojban-zasni] is a lojban mailing list for experimental grammars

===Social network groups===
*[[Image:Vkontakte_LOGO.jpg|15px|link=http://vk.com/menli.bangu]] [http://vk.com/menli.bangu Группа ВКонтакте] (rusko)
*[[Image:Facebook_Logo_Mini.svg|12px|link=http://facebook.com/groups/Lojban/]] http://facebook.com/groups/Lojban/ - the group in Facebook.
*[[Image:Google plus icon.svg|12px|link=https://plus.google.com/communities/105661163321603750740]] https://plus.google.com/communities/105661163321603750740 - the group in Google Plus.
*[[Image:quora.png|12px|link=http://www.quora.com/Lojban]] [http://www.quora.com/Lojban Quora].

===Microblogging===
As microblogging has become more popular among the internets as a whole, it's also started to be noticed in Lojbanistan.
* [http://identi.ca identi.ca], sometimes known as '''la .aidentikar.''' There was a Lojban group called !lojban.
* Twitter Lojbanic posts on [http://twitter.com/ Twitter] are sometimes tagged #lojban, but it's also fun to [http://search.twitter.com/search?q=lojban search for Lojban without the #] to see what random strangers are saying about us!
* [http://reddit.com/r/lojban/ Reddit] has a page where Lojbanic news are often published.
* [http://lojban.shapado.com/ Shapado] website has a Lojban page.

=== Other Forums ===

* [[The Lojban MOO|The Lojban MOO]] is a type of MUD (a multi-user online text adventure game, sort of) that is fully bilingual in its command set.
* [[jboselkei]] is an online game of translation from English to Lojban, featuring rating calculation for users. If you don't know how this or that is translated to Lojban, ask it in jboselkei, and as the game proceeds, expect to see one or even more translations of your 'post' made by jboselkei players, with comments. If you are an experienced lojbanist, you will always find a couple or more challenging 'tough nuts' awaiting your translation and promising rating points. jboselkei first appeared in Beta form in mid March 2006, and was upgraded for appearance and usability in November 2006. Playing in jboselkei is very exciting; you are welcome to join!
* [http://www.lojban.org/story/story.pl The Lojbanic Interactive Story] is a web-based story writing forum. The story itself is all in Lojban. Anyone can add to it, please go contribute!
* [http://lojban.7.forumer.com/index.php Lojban.forumer]
* There has been a [http://community.livejournal.com/lojban/ LiveJournal community] for Lojban for a long time, though it's often sleepy.

=== Archives Of Past Discussions ===

==== Mailing List Archives ====

There are locally stored archives of a number of lists. Those lists are no longer updated.

* [http://www.lojban.org/lists/lojban-list The main Lojban mailing list]. To subscribe to the list via email (in case you don't want to use the Google Groups interface), write an email to: lojban+subscribe@googlegroups.com
* [http://www.lojban.org/lists/lojban-beginners The lojban-beginners list]. To subscribe via email, write to: lojban-beginners+subscribe@googlegroups.com
* [http://www.lojban.org/lists/lojban-es Lojban-es, the Spanish Lojban list]
* [http://www.lojban.org/lists/lojban-fr Lojban-fr, the French Lojban list]

* [http://www.lojban.org/lists/bpfk-announce The BPFK announcement list]

The Google Groups lists have complete, searchable archives stored in Google Groups itself.

In addition to this, for research purposes, there are as-complete-as-humanly-possible archives of all Google Groups lists stored as UNIX mail files on one of the lojban.org computers. If you need access to them, [mailto:secretary@lojban.org mail the LLG secretary].

==== IRC Logs ====

[http://lojban.org/resources/irclog/ Public logs of the lojbanic portions of the IRC channel] are available.

'''Note:''' the logs are filtered so that they contain only Lojbanic text. However, you might still be offended by the things discussed there. If you are, that's your problem, and the [[LLG|LLG]] explicitly disclaims responsibility for anything said on the IRC channel, including by members or officers of the [[LLG|LLG]].

Furthermore, no guarantee is made as to the correctness of the Lojban therein.

=== Lojbanic Websites ===
None of these sites are officially associated with the LLG in any way.
*http://jboselkei.lojban.org is an online game of translation from English to Lojban, featuring rating calculation for users. If you don't know how this or that is translated to Lojban, ask it in jboselkei, and as the game proceeds, expect to see one or even more translations of your 'post' made by jboselkei players, with comments. If you are an experienced lojbanist, you will always find a couple or more challenging 'tough nuts' awaiting your translation and promising rating points. jboselkei first appeared in Beta form in mid March 2006, and was upgraded for appearance and usability in November 2006. Playing in jboselkei is very exciting; you are welcome to join!
* [http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/ jbovlaste] - a lojbanic dictionary program from [[Jay Kominek]].
* [http://jbotcan.org/ jbotcan] -- an anonymous bulletin board.
* [http://jbo.wiktionary.org/wiki/ralju_ckupau uikipedias] -- Lojbanic Wikipedia.
* [http://www.reddit.com/r/lojban/ Reddit Lojban Group] -- a social news website.
* [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban Google Lojban Group]
* [[Official LLG Projects|The official LLG Projects page]]
* [http://www.nvg.org/~arj/dantimanti/ la danti manti] is [[User:tsali|tsali's]] very infrequently updated weblog.
* [http://satirist.org/lojban/cuvjbo/balfihe/ la roldei balfipmabru] is [[jezrax|jezrax's]] site.
* [http://purl.oclc.org/net/lojban la .jbosev.] "Lojban Dreams" of [[User:nonong|Viktor Medrano]].

==History==
* [[Lojban timeline|Lojban timeline]]
* [[Social history of Lojban|Social history of Lojban]]
* [[Generations, waves and epochs of Lojbanists]]
* [[Lojban awards]]
==Culture==
* [[Lojbanistani Culture|Lojbanistani Culture]]
* [[Ideologies and Philosophies about Lojban|Ideologies and Philosophies about Lojban]]

[[Category:nu jikca]]

Lojban around the world

2016-11-12T13:27:07Z

Ractu:

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==1. Chats==
Improve, learn, teach Lojban in chats: text or audio/video chats. The overall goal being to establish a broad level of conversational fluency in the Lojban community.

Here are the tools to be used as primary.
=== [[Lojban Live Chat|Live chat on IRC / Telegram / Slack]]===
This is the main place of chat activity.

=== Mailing lists ===
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The [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/topics lojban-beginners mailing list] is for questions about learning and understanding Lojban. You can subscribe to the list by sending a question to [mailto:lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com].

The general-purpose [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/topics lojban mailing list], which covers anything else related to Lojban, was founded in 1989, and has about 500 subscribers. You can subscribe to it by sending an email to [mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com lojban@googlegroups.com].

===Skype and QQ ===
==== Technical rules of using Skype/QQ ====
Some people have trouble operating Skype. So here are the basic rules of a successful voice chat for Skype
# Use a group where all potential speakers share their interest in the forthcoming conference in text form only. This group already exists. It's called {ko ciska po'o tavla ...} (meaning "Talk by writing only...") This group is only for planning, not for actual talking. Ask in this mail thread to add you there.
# One person runs a desktop version of Skype and has good incoming and outcoming internet connection (~1Mbit/sec in both directions is fine).
# This person must add all interested people to his/her friend list and those people must confirm "friendship".
# This person calls the first person and after successful connection drops other people into the chat window.
# Please, everyone switch off your video by pressing on the video button so that it becomes crossed out.
# Before any conference check your microphone and audio settings of Skype. Add "echo123" user (it's a bot) to your friend list, call it and follow the instruction. Change settings of your Skype client if necessary.
# If you have noise around you during the conference or if other members notice a noise from your side switch off your microphone by pressing on the Microphone button so that it becomes crossed out.

I think that as of now Skype is preferable since it has better voice compression and buffering mechanisms preventing clicks/pauses during conversation due to unstable internet connection. As of now it's unlikely that 100% of potential students of Lojban get normal internet connection. Many even change to mobile connection dropping the level of fast + stable internet connection even more.

QQ messenger used in China tested several times with mainland China residents and non-residents works okay. Just like Skype.

==== Skype Phone Group Topics ====
Read more: [[Skype|Skype and important issues of it]].

You can arrange a voice call (phone or VoIP) with another Lojban speaker at any skill level. A lot of people have expressed concern about the phone group with respect to the "well, what would we talk about?" issue. I'm pretty sure that discussions about that will take up a lot of space, so please see the [[Phone Group Topics|Phone Group Topics]] page.

We welcome anyone, regardless of expertise, physical location or monetary resources.

To join, just add people above to your Skype friends' list and ask who might be available to talk with you.

In an ideal universe, [[Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]]'d like to see people matched up with people of very different levels of ability, to spread the expertise around as quickly as possible, but I'm not hugely attached to that.

==== Lojban On The Phone ====
Please bear in mind, everyone, that collision avoidance is hard on the phone. Please become familiar with ta'a, re'i, be'e, je'e, ki'a and ke'o. Especially that last one. :-)

Here's a [[vlaselyle'u|phonetic alphabet]] for spelling words on the phone.

==== Other tools ====
*[https://plus.google.com/111885648105308968553/posts A group] in Google+ where you can videochat in real-time with other Lojbanists less popular tools:
*[[Mumble|Mumble]]: a vocal chatroom
* [http://cinchcast.com/ Cinch] is an audio-blogging service which allows its users to record directly to the website or phone in to record.
*direct browser-to-browser chats like [http://appear.in/ appear.in].

==== About Expertise ====
The "expertise" field in the members table is currently rather informal, and you are welcome to alter yours as you feel appropriate. However, [[User:Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]] and [[User:Nick Nicholas|Nick Nicholas]] have had their expertise certified in person. The reason behind such system is the option of making the phone group into a ranking system, similar to Chess rankings. In other words, if you want to be certified Expert level, you ask Robin or Nick to take some time to call you up and basically hammer away at you for an hour. You, in turn, can then certify people at rankings below Expert (or, possibly, at or below expert).

Note that any use of word lists in any such tests would be cheating.

{{See_also|Lojban Expertise Test}}

==2. Real life clubs==
Organize in real life Lojban clubs based on your physical location on the planet:
*[[southeast Michigan Lojban group|Southeast Michigan Lojban Group]] - A group of about half a dozen Lojban enthusiasts met at [[Matt Arnold|Matt Arnold]]'s house in Redford, Michigan about every two weeks (except when college is in session, because so many of them are undergrads, grad students, or teachers). Regular attendees include [[Bruce Webber|Bruce Webber]], TheRomp, Shaun Klein, Neil Eppstein, and Alex Martini. The group has been going in one form or another since March 2005.
*A Lojban group started at Grinnell College in Iowa, in October 2006.
*[[Jay Kominek|Jay Kominek]] is interested in starting one at the University of Colorado, let him know if you're in the area.
*[[Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]] used to teach a class in the Silicon Valley area, in Northern California. He'd be willing to do so again if enough people were interested. I know two people here that would attend, but I'd be interested in other jbopre joining.
*Anagram is interested in informally gathering for a workshop of beginners in the Bakersfield, California area. Try contacting him via irc.freenode.net. My registered nick is Anagram, you may leave me a memo via memoserv.
*[[User:tsali|Arnt Richard Johansen]] will teach anyone in 'Trondheim, NO' who is interested. Contact him at arj ATT nvg dot org.
*There has been talk of some of us Southern Californian jbopre getting together in Pomona monthly. More info at [[SoCalLojbanists|SoCalLojbanists]].
* For Aussies in and around Sydney, I ([[la .djunias.]]) am looking to start a Lojban club near Macquarie University. If you're interested, please contact me!
* In Hong Kong, I ([[sorpa'as plat]]) am trying to start the [http://www.facebook.com/groups/lojbanhk Hong Kong Lojbanist Group]. [http://www.facebook.com/groups/cuhkoil/ Open Innovation Lab] once helped us organized a Lojban meetup.
Here are some of the places known to have a high concentration of Lojbanists, or some influential Lojbanists:
* Fairfax, Virginia
* New York, New York
* California
===Mark yourself on the world map===
For now a Google map is used to mark Lojbanists' location on the planet to figure out where new clubs can be organized.

[https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zsu6INucCzOM.kxkof_dbS3ZY&msa=0&ll=47.195778%2C27.590103&spn=0.254281%2C0.676346 Don't be shy to mark your location on the planet].

==3. Festivals==
Organize conferences and festivals. The only annual festival by far is [[jbonunsla]].

==Database of Lojbanists==
For fulfilling the first two goals:
{{mu|i ko jmina le cmene e lei tcila va'o le nu do se cinri le nu penmi loi drata jbopli vi le se xabju be do|Put your name and contact information here if you're interested in getting together with other Lojbanists in your area or talking via audio/video chat.}}

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!lo cmene
!fluency
!lo gugde
!also speaks
!e-mail/id on Skype
!more precise location
! style="width: 15%;" |notes
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|la [[User:Bob LeChevalier|lojbab]] (lobja'a)
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:lojbab@lojban.org mrilu]
|Fairfax VA, near DC, and that's where [[Logfest|Logfest]] is always held
|a founder of the [[LLG]]. This language might not exist without him and the others he worked with to make Lojban public domain.
|-
|[[Nora LeChevalier|Nora LeChevalier]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:lojbab@lojban.org mrilu]
|Fairfax VA, near DC, and that's where [[Logfest|Logfest]] is always held
|[[lojbab]]'s wife, and has done huge amounts of work on Lojban, largely on the wordlists and software.

|-
|[[Jay Kominek|Jay Kominek]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
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|Boulder, Colorado
|

|-
|[[User:djunias|la .djunias.]]
|
|'''gugde'a'u''' ''(Australia)''
|
|
|Sydney
|I am looking to start a Lojban club near Macquarie University, Sydney. If you're interested, please contact me!

|-
|[[User:Nick Nicholas|Nick Nicholas]]
|
|'''gugde'a'u''' ''(Australia)''
|
|
|
|was the first fluent Lojban speaker (he insists that he was the second, but he's known to be excessively modest). He also has done a lot of Lojbanic writing, both writing in lojban and about it.
|-
|[[Pierre Abbat|.pier. abat.]] = Pierre Abbat
|medium
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|Francais
|[mailto:phma@phma.hn.org mrilu], skype: pierre.abbat
|North Carolina, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=412 EST]
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|-
|[[User:.kreig.daniyl.|.kreig.daniyl.]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
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|North Carolina
|lojbo pemci finti
|-
|[[User:John Cowan|John Cowan]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|
|New York City
|the author of the [[CLL|Complete Lojban Language]]. What more can you say?
|-
|[[User:xod|la xod]] = [[InventYourself|InventYourself]]
|Intermediate
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:xod@balvi.org mrilu]
|New York City, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]
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|-
|Edward Blevins
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:thedward@barsoom.net mrilu]
|''(Austin, TX)'') / 512.796.6661
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|-
|Adam Raizen
|
|'''gugde'ilu''' ''<nowiki>(Israel)</nowiki>''
|
|[mailto:araizen@softhome.net mrilu]
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|-
|[[Ivan Derzhanski|Ivan Derzhanski]]
|
|'''lo gugdebugu''' ''(Болгария)''
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|[[User: Broca|Arnt Richard Johansen]] = [[User:tsali|tsali]] = Broca
|intermediate
|'''lo gugdenu'o''' ''(Norway)''
|
|[mailto:arj@nvg.org mrilu]
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=288 CET]
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|-
|Raphaël Poss
|
|'''lo gugdefuru''' ''(France)''
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|[mailto:r.poss@online.fr mrilu]
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|[[User:.jexOm.|jexOm.]] = JérômeDesquilbet
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|'''lo gugdefuru''' ''(France)''
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|[[User:Ilmen|la .ilmen.]]
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|'''lo gugdefuru''' ''(France)''
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|[[User:Mark Shoulson|Mark Shoulson]] aka '''clsn''', '''.mark.'''
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|
|in New Jersey
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|-
|[[Theodore Reed|Theodore Reed]] = rizen = bancus
|medium
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto: rizen@surreality.us mrilu], skype: tedreed
|Ontario, Southern California, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=865 PST]
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|[[User:John Clifford|John Clifford]] = [[pc]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
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|St. Louis, MO
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|-
|[[djin|djin]].meiz.
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:emaas@hotpop.com mrilu]
|Tidewater/Hampton Roads, VA
|
|-
|[[Robin Lee Powell]]
|expert
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org mrilu], skype: rlpowell
|Northern California, the Silicon Valley area, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=900 PST]
|[http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ his web site]. Yours truly, is the current webmaster of this site and the provider of the machine and bandwidth it is served from.
|-
|[[Xavier|xavier]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|
|school is in Rochester, NY, but himself is from Newton, MA.
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|stevo
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|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com mrilu]
|Cincinnati, OH
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|-
|[[Matt Arnold|Matt Arnold]] = '''epkat''' = Eppcott
|beginner
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:matt.mattarn@gmail.com mrilu], skype: matt_arnold
|Detroit/Ann Arbor, Michigan, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=77 EST]
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|[[User:Björn Gohla|Björn Gohla]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
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|http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~bjoern/
|-
|[[User:Lindar|Lindar Greenwood]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:lindarthebard@yahoo.com mrilu]
|Hollywood, California, willing to travel to (almost) any part of LA county for meetings.
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|[[Jeremy Way|rem.klajis]]
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|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
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|Phoenixville, Chester County, pa
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|la [[.alyn.post.|.alyn.post.]]
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|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
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|xabju lo la'o .gy. Rio Grande .gy. rirxe ma'arbi'i pe la'o .gy. New Mexico .gy.
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|Mike Fairhurst
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|[mailto:michaelrfairhurst@hotmail.com mrilu]
|looking for Lojbanists around Portland, Oregon
|or facebook me
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|Twitch
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|[mailto:sirrustemplar@madriver.com mrilu]
|learning lojban in Montpelier, Vermont
|would love to work with others
|-
|cizyprijev
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|[mailto:osiris_hades_deathland@hotmail.com mrilu]
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|https://twitter.com/#!/cizyprijev
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|[[James Cooke Brown|Dr. James Cooke Brown]]
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|lived in the US
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|Avital Oliver
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|'''gugde'ilu''' ''<nowiki>(Israel)</nowiki>''
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|[mailto:olivera@macs.biu.ac.il mrilu]
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|Alex (Sasha) Gontmakher
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|'''gugde'ilu''' ''<nowiki>(Israel)</nowiki>''
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|[mailto:gsasha@cs.technion.ac.il mrilu]
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|[[User:xorxes|Jorge Llambías]] aka '''la .xorxes.'''
|
|'''lo gugde'aru''' ''(Argentina)''
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|[mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com mrilu]
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|[[User:Tsani|la tsani]]
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|'''lo gugdecu'a''' ''(Canada)''
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|Montreal
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|[[Adam Lopresto|Adam Lopresto]] = Eimi = '''la xalbo'''
|expert
|'''lo gugdecu'a''' ''(Canada)''
|
|[mailto:adam@pubcrawler.org mrilu], skype: adamlopresto
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=605 CDT]
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|[[User:nonong|Viktor Medrano]]
|
|'''lo gugdecu'a''' ''(Canada)''
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|.i mi zvati le lulus. zei daplu
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|[[User:Gleki|la gleki]]
|
|'''lo gugderu'u''' ''(Россия)''
|русский
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|основной контакт для русскоговорящих
|-
|[[Russian Lojban community|Русскоязычное сообщество]]
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|'''lo gugderu'u''' ''(Россия)''
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|[[User:Cyril Slobin|Cyril Slobin]]
|
|'''lo gugderu'u''' ''(Россия)''
|русский
|[mailto:cyril@slobin.pp.ru mrilu]
|Москва
|http://slobin.pp.ru/english.html
|-
|Ark Balandin
|expert
|'''lo gugderu'u''' ''(Россия)''
|русский
|skype: ark.balandin
|GMT + 4
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|A. W. Tüting ([[.aulun.|.aulun.]])
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|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')
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|[mailto:Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de mrilu]
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|[[Timo Paulssen|Timo Paulssen]] = timonator
|
|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')
|Deutsch
|[mailto:timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de mrilu]
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|[[User:Björn Gohla|Björn Gohla]]
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|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')
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|[mailto:b.gohla@gmx.de mrilu]
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|[[Philip Newton|Philip Newton]] = [[pne|pne]] = .filip.
|beginner
|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')
|
|[mailto:pne@writeme.com mrilu]
|Hamburg, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=307 CEST]
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|Jens Gutzeit = [[.iens.|.iens.]]
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|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')
|
|[mailto:jens@jgutzeit.de mrilu]
|Berlin
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|-
|[[User:Iesk|.iesk.]]
|
|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')
|
|[mailto:pa.fae@gmx.de mrilu]
|berti dotygu'e
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|[[User:selpa'i|la selpa'i]]
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|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')
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|Berlin
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|[[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] = [[And Rosta|And Rosta]] = AndRosta
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|'''lo gugdegubu''' ''(United Kingdom)''
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|London & Preston.
|No point meeting me if you want to practice Lojban conversation! I have never really got round to learning such conversationally vital stuff as gismu, BAI, tense, UI... That doesn't mean I'm not willing to try a bit, tho.
|-
|[[Colin Fine|Colin Fine]]
|
|'''lo gugdegubu''' ''(United Kingdom)''
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|[[User:.evgenis.|Evgenii Sklyanin]] = la .evgenis.
|
|'''lo gugdegubu''' ''(United Kingdom)''
|
|[mailto:eks2@york.ac.uk mrilu]
|York
|earlier in St. Petersburg
|-
|[[.greg.|greg.]], Gryon, Gregory Dyke
|Beginner
|'''lo gugdecuxe''' ''(Switzerland)''
|
|[mailto:gvd@easy.com mrilu], [mailto: epfl@lojban.org mrilu]
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=945 CET]
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|Veijo Vilva (veion)
|
|'''lo gugdefu'i''' ''(Suomi)''
|
|[mailto:veijo.vilva@gmail.com mrilu]
|Porvoo/Borgå
|http://galactinus.net/vilva/
|-
|Martin Norbäck, G?org, norpan on irc
|beginner
|'''lo gugrsferie''' ''(Sweden)''
|
|[mailto:d95mback@dtek.chalmers.se mrilu]
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|[[ShaeErisson]]
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|'''lo gugrsferie''' ''(Sweden)''
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|[mailto:shae@ScannedInAvian.com mrilu]
|Boden
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|Roger Norling
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|'''lo gugrsferie''' ''(Sweden)''
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|[mailto:r_norling@bredband.net mrilu]
|Sundsvall
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|Marek Rogalski
|
|'''lo gugdepulu''' ''(Polska)''
|polska
|[mailto:mafikpl@gmail.com mrilu]
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|[[User:solri|Robin Turner]] aka '''la solri'''
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|'''lo gugdeturu''' ''(Türkiye)''
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|finti la'oi [[L4B]]
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|[[User:durka42|Alex Burka]] aka '''la durka'''
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|español
|[mailto:lojban@alexburka.com mrilu]
|Philadelphia
|

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|[[Jordan DeLong|Jordan DeLong]]
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|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
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|[mailto:fracture@allusion.net mrilu]
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=75 CST]
|

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|[[selckiku|selckiku]] = Brett Douglas Williams = mungojelly
|expert
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|[mailto:selckiku@gmail.com mrilu], skype: selckiku
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]
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|[[User:Stephen Weeks|Stephen Weeks]] = Tene
|intermediate
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|[mailto:tene@allalone.org mrilu], skype: srweeks
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=220 MST]
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|[[Xavier|Steve Pomeroy]] = ?
|Beginner
|
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|[mailto:steve@staticfree.info mrilu]
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]
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|Kevin Reid = kpreid
|Intermediate
|
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|[mailto:kpreid@mac.com mrilu], skype: kpreid
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=179 EDT]
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|Alex Martini = aleks
|Beginner/Intermediate
|
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|[mailto:alexjm@umich.edu mrilu], skype: amartini51
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]
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|Jonathan Strickland = djanatyn
|Beginner/Intermediate
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|[mailto:djanatyn@gmail.com mrilu]
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=179 EDT]
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|William McMillian = Very_Bill
|Beginner
|
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|[mailto: mrilu], skype: William McMillian
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=220 MDT]
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|[[User:.rem.klajis.|Remy Way]] = remklajis
|Beginner/Intermediate
|
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|[mailto:rem.klajis@gmail.com mrilu], skype: rem.klajis
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]
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|Gianmarco Molino = mercrutio
|Beginner
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|[mailto:mercrutio.undefined@gmail.com mrilu], skype: mercrutio.11235813
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=220 MDT]
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|Ashley P. = eclen
|Beginner
|
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|[mailto:ashley.akakuro@gmail.com mrilu], skype: kiriel.ambar
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]
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|[[User:Cein|cein]]
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|[[User:Michael Helsem|.maiky'elsym.]] = graywyvern
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|finti lo lojbo pemci
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|la [[rab.spir|rab.spir]]
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|finti lo [[jbozgiMusic|jbozgi]]
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|[[John Schock|John Schock]] = '''.djancak.'''
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|[[User:.aionys.|.aionys.]] = eyeonus
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|[[Athelstan]]
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|[[Goran Topic|Goran Topic]]
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|[[.iusris.|.iusris.]]
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|[[jemna|John Leuner]]
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|[[jezrax|jezrax]]
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|[[User:Adam Cooper|komfo,amonan]] = Adam Cooper = adamgarrigus
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|[[LordBrain|LordBrain]]
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|[[User:PlasticRaven|Plastic Raven]]
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|[[User:skaryzgik|skaryzgik]] = Marjorie Scherf
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|Oren Robinson
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|普通话
|[mailto:get.oren@gmail.com mrilu]
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|Leonardo Molas
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|[mailto:leos.molas@gmail.com mrilu]
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|rprije
|Intermediate
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|skype: robreim3
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/time/zone/china/beijing UTC+8]
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|Brendan (Tang Wei), ahbrendan
|Beginner
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|[mailto:ahbrendan@gmail.com mrilu], skype: ahbrendan
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/time/zone/china/beijing UTC+8]
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|la .dzyLON. (Zilong Li)
|Beginner
|lo gugdecunu (中國)
|普通話, 한국어, español
|[mailto:zilongli@outlook.lv mrilu], skype: zhuanshulicao
|[https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zone/south-korea/seoul UTC+9]
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|[[User:Ramcinfo|la ramcinfo]], Dmitry Kourmyshov, mindszenty on irc
|beginner
|'''lo gugderu'u''' ''(Россия)''
|English
|[mailto:mantycore@gmail.com mrilu]
|St.Petersburg
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|[[User:mark.xafirkamp.|mark.xafirkamp]]
|panoce'i lo gismu .e xo lo cmavo ''(10% of gismu and ??? cmavo)''
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|'''lo glibau''' ''(English)'' '''mi milxe lo sanbau djuno''' ''(Español, pero solamente un poco)''
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|Flagstaff, Arizona
|I'm interested in meeting any jbopre in Flagstaff and talking with technology/computer/programming-oriented jbopre around the world. .i mi nintadni lo jbobau .i mi na kakne lo nu tavla fo lo jbobau kei ku lo nu na ralte lo jbobau vlacku
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|[[User:Ractu|la .uakci]] = Bruno Panasiewicz
|fluent
|'''lo gugdepulu''' ''(Polska)''
|'''lo bangupulu''' ''(Polski)'', '''lo glibau''' ''(English)'', '''lo ponbau sei tolcre''' ''(Japanese, kind of)''
|[mailto:ciuak.prog@gmail.com mrilu], Skype: bruno.panasiewicz, Discord: uakci, Twitter: @la_ractu
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|[[User:timoteios|timoteios]]
|very basic
|'''lo gugde'a'u''' ''(Australia)''
|'''lo glibau''' (English)
'''lo fasybau''' (très mal français)
|[[User:timoteios|timoteios]]
|Brisbane, Australia
|A room would be available if you wanted to stay in Australia for a holiday.

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==Organizations==
===[[The Logical Language Group]]===
... and its affiliated organizations
==== Contacting The LLG by e-mail ====
You can contact the LLG by e-mail using our [http://www.lojban.org/llg/feedback.php our web-based e-mail form], or the list of e-mail addresses below.
*Web Master [mailto:webmaster@lojban.org webmaster@lojban.org]
*President [mailto:president@lojban.org president@lojban.org]
*Vice President [mailto:vp@lojban.org vp@lojban.org]
*Secretary/Treasurer [mailto:treasurer@lojban.org treasurer@lojban.org]
*General Inquiries [mailto:lojban@lojban.org lojban@lojban.org]
==== Contacting The LLG by postal mail ====
The Logical Language Group, Inc.

2904 Beau Lane

Fairfax, VA 22031, USA

(703) 385-0273

== Less known places ==
The Lojban community has a vibrant and growing online presence. Only a portion of Lojban websites are listed here, as this community is growing and changing too fast to list them all.

This section contains a list of various forums in which people discuss Lojban or discuss in Lojban, in approximate order of popularity as far as the main community is aware.

===Learning websites===
[http://laxmahispajispaji.blogspot.com/ la laxma'i spaji spaji, the bilingual Lojban/English blog], can be helpful for learning both how various English idioms may be translated into Lojban, and how to use a wide range of Lojban cmavo (mainly in a narrative tone).

=== Mailing lists ===
Other than the primary mailing lists, the following special interest lists exist:
* [http://lojban.freeforums.net/ Lojban FreeForums]
* [http://groups.google.com/group/jbofanva jbofanva] is a mailing list for translation projects.
* http://lojban.livejournal.com/
* [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-announcements/ The Lojban Announcements Mailing List] is for single posts on topics of general community interest.
All posts to this list are moderated, and all must include a description for where followup conversation should go. For example: "there are now Lojban flashcards on smart.fm; follow up discussion should go to the Beginners list" (but presumably with more detail). This is ''NOT'' a discussion list. The list does not set Reply-To, so you should set it to where you want followup discussion to go, if you know how.

The announcement list sends to just about every Lojban email list there is. People can also subscribe to it directly, if they want to get announcements of general community interest but do not want to be on the main mailing lists.

Anything likely to be of interest to large segments of the Lojban community is on topic. In particular, "I'm starting Lojbanic project X and need help/feedback" is what the list is primarily intended for.
* [http://groups.google.com/group/xedbig/ xedbig], AKA Hedwig, a private, moderated list with rules (you must be nice, you must speak in Lojban, and you may not criticise how other people speak Lojban)

* [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-pl/ lojban-pl], the Polish Lojban list
* [http://groups.google.com/group/budjo/ budjo], for discussion of Buddhism

* [http://groups.google.com/group/kasyjda/ kasyjda], for discussion of the chaos religions, such as Discordianism
* [http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list/ the bpfk mailing list], for language development issues

* [http://groups.google.com/group/xadni/ xadni], a largely unused list for discussion of the experience of having a body, or something like that
* lo jbocertu cu bau casnu vecu'u [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jbosnu/ la jbosnu] (nothing but spam these days)

* The [http://www.lojban.org/lists/jboske/ jboske], or lojbanic science list was used for extremely detailed discussions of technical and linguistic issues related to Lojban.
* [http://groups.google.com/group/jefnuz/ jefnuz] is a subscribe-and-don't-post list for receiving the weekly community news.
* [http://groups.google.com/group/snakarni/ snakarni] is a list for audio-bloggers, especially for CinchCast users.
* [http://groups.google.com/group/lojhbanistoj/ Loĵbanistoj] is a lojban mailing list where discussions occur in Esperanto
* [https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/lojban-zasni/ lojban-zasni] is a lojban mailing list for experimental grammars

===Social network groups===
*[[Image:Vkontakte_LOGO.jpg|15px|link=http://vk.com/menli.bangu]] [http://vk.com/menli.bangu Группа ВКонтакте] (rusko)
*[[Image:Facebook_Logo_Mini.svg|12px|link=http://facebook.com/groups/Lojban/]] http://facebook.com/groups/Lojban/ - the group in Facebook.
*[[Image:Google plus icon.svg|12px|link=https://plus.google.com/communities/105661163321603750740]] https://plus.google.com/communities/105661163321603750740 - the group in Google Plus.
*[[Image:quora.png|12px|link=http://www.quora.com/Lojban]] [http://www.quora.com/Lojban Quora].

===Microblogging===
As microblogging has become more popular among the internets as a whole, it's also started to be noticed in Lojbanistan.
* [http://identi.ca identi.ca], sometimes known as '''la .aidentikar.''' There was a Lojban group called !lojban.
* Twitter Lojbanic posts on [http://twitter.com/ Twitter] are sometimes tagged #lojban, but it's also fun to [http://search.twitter.com/search?q=lojban search for Lojban without the #] to see what random strangers are saying about us!
* [http://reddit.com/r/lojban/ Reddit] has a page where Lojbanic news are often published.
* [http://lojban.shapado.com/ Shapado] website has a Lojban page.

=== Other Forums ===

* [[The Lojban MOO|The Lojban MOO]] is a type of MUD (a multi-user online text adventure game, sort of) that is fully bilingual in its command set.
* [[jboselkei]] is an online game of translation from English to Lojban, featuring rating calculation for users. If you don't know how this or that is translated to Lojban, ask it in jboselkei, and as the game proceeds, expect to see one or even more translations of your 'post' made by jboselkei players, with comments. If you are an experienced lojbanist, you will always find a couple or more challenging 'tough nuts' awaiting your translation and promising rating points. jboselkei first appeared in Beta form in mid March 2006, and was upgraded for appearance and usability in November 2006. Playing in jboselkei is very exciting; you are welcome to join!
* [http://www.lojban.org/story/story.pl The Lojbanic Interactive Story] is a web-based story writing forum. The story itself is all in Lojban. Anyone can add to it, please go contribute!
* [http://lojban.7.forumer.com/index.php Lojban.forumer]
* There has been a [http://community.livejournal.com/lojban/ LiveJournal community] for Lojban for a long time, though it's often sleepy.

=== Archives Of Past Discussions ===

==== Mailing List Archives ====

There are locally stored archives of a number of lists. Those lists are no longer updated.

* [http://www.lojban.org/lists/lojban-list The main Lojban mailing list]. To subscribe to the list via email (in case you don't want to use the Google Groups interface), write an email to: lojban+subscribe@googlegroups.com
* [http://www.lojban.org/lists/lojban-beginners The lojban-beginners list]. To subscribe via email, write to: lojban-beginners+subscribe@googlegroups.com
* [http://www.lojban.org/lists/lojban-es Lojban-es, the Spanish Lojban list]
* [http://www.lojban.org/lists/lojban-fr Lojban-fr, the French Lojban list]

* [http://www.lojban.org/lists/bpfk-announce The BPFK announcement list]

The Google Groups lists have complete, searchable archives stored in Google Groups itself.

In addition to this, for research purposes, there are as-complete-as-humanly-possible archives of all Google Groups lists stored as UNIX mail files on one of the lojban.org computers. If you need access to them, [mailto:secretary@lojban.org mail the LLG secretary].

==== IRC Logs ====

[http://lojban.org/resources/irclog/ Public logs of the lojbanic portions of the IRC channel] are available.

'''Note:''' the logs are filtered so that they contain only Lojbanic text. However, you might still be offended by the things discussed there. If you are, that's your problem, and the [[LLG|LLG]] explicitly disclaims responsibility for anything said on the IRC channel, including by members or officers of the [[LLG|LLG]].

Furthermore, no guarantee is made as to the correctness of the Lojban therein.

=== Lojbanic Websites ===
None of these sites are officially associated with the LLG in any way.
*http://jboselkei.lojban.org is an online game of translation from English to Lojban, featuring rating calculation for users. If you don't know how this or that is translated to Lojban, ask it in jboselkei, and as the game proceeds, expect to see one or even more translations of your 'post' made by jboselkei players, with comments. If you are an experienced lojbanist, you will always find a couple or more challenging 'tough nuts' awaiting your translation and promising rating points. jboselkei first appeared in Beta form in mid March 2006, and was upgraded for appearance and usability in November 2006. Playing in jboselkei is very exciting; you are welcome to join!
* [http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/ jbovlaste] - a lojbanic dictionary program from [[Jay Kominek]].
* [http://jbotcan.org/ jbotcan] -- an anonymous bulletin board.
* [http://jbo.wiktionary.org/wiki/ralju_ckupau uikipedias] -- Lojbanic Wikipedia.
* [http://www.reddit.com/r/lojban/ Reddit Lojban Group] -- a social news website.
* [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban Google Lojban Group]
* [[Official LLG Projects|The official LLG Projects page]]
* [http://www.nvg.org/~arj/dantimanti/ la danti manti] is [[User:tsali|tsali's]] very infrequently updated weblog.
* [http://satirist.org/lojban/cuvjbo/balfihe/ la roldei balfipmabru] is [[jezrax|jezrax's]] site.
* [http://purl.oclc.org/net/lojban la .jbosev.] "Lojban Dreams" of [[User:nonong|Viktor Medrano]].

==History==
* [[Lojban timeline|Lojban timeline]]
* [[Social history of Lojban|Social history of Lojban]]
* [[Generations, waves and epochs of Lojbanists]]
* [[Lojban awards]]
==Culture==
* [[Lojbanistani Culture|Lojbanistani Culture]]
* [[Ideologies and Philosophies about Lojban|Ideologies and Philosophies about Lojban]]

[[Category:nu jikca]]

te gerna la lojban

2016-11-12T13:22:29Z

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!'''se krasi'''
!'''klesi'''
!'''lo lojbo cmene'''
!'''lo lojbo fanva'''
!'''lo krasi cmene'''
!'''lo finti'''
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|lo lojbo xe fanva
|lo pemci
|[http://uakci.github.io/sorxaizu'eseicatlu.html sorxaizu'e sei catlu]
| la uakci
| la'o pol Terrorysta, on patrzy pol
| la visuuavas cimborskas
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|lo lojbo
|lo prosa
|[https://lynn.github.io/la-melbi-e-le-ractu/ la melbi .e le ractu]
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| la lalxu
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| lo lojbo
| lo prosa
| [https://solpahi.wordpress.com/2016/09/26/mi-zaho-citno/ «lu mi za'o citno li'u»]
|
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| [[User:Selpa'i|la selpa'i]]
|-
|lo lojbo
|lo zgike
|'''[http://fotono.tumblr.com/post/143537131514/coi-lo-se-jbobau-joau-zantufa-xi-papipare-i-la skaborfe'a]'''
|[[User:Guskant|la guskant]]
|Scarborough Fair
|lo jufra cu se finti [[User:Guskant|la guskant]]

|-
|lo lojbo jo'u lo xe fanva
|lo prosa jo'u lo zgike
|'''[http://fotono.tumblr.com/post/142067679719/spuda-la-selckiku-nou-lae-die-i spuda la selckiku sei la tanbargu cu pagbu]'''
|[[User:Guskant|la guskant]]
|Over the rainbow
|la'o zoi Harold Arlen zoi joi la'o zoi Edgar Yipsel Harburg zoi
|-
|lo lojbo
|lo prosa jo'u lo pemci
|[https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6fUPLWJ-f-SWDlxRi1EUTNlZTg/view?usp=sharing pluta]
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|[https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6fUPLWJ-f-SWDlxRi1EUTNlZTg/view?usp=sharing pluta]
|lo pamoi be lo re pagbu cu ve skicu la lojban bau lo banjupunu .i lo romoi cu jufra fi la lojban fi'e la cogas jo'u la niftyg jo'u la sidas
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|lo lojbo
|lo prosa
|[https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/LnbyPkupoMA/discussion ni'o ni'o da'a mo'o notci la si]
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|[https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/LnbyPkupoMA/discussion ni'o ni'o da'a mo'o notci la si]
|la iesk
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|lo lojbo
|lo zgike
|[https://vimeo.com/141602354 lo no valsi to bripre ci mo'o toi]
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|[https://vimeo.com/141602354 lo no valsi to bripre ci mo'o toi]
|la iesk noi finti lo jicmu jufra no'u la'au ni'o ni'o da'a mo'o notci la si li'u ku'o joi ke [[la bripre]] joi [[la guskant|la mankant]] vu'o noi sanga ku'o ke'e joi [[la guskant]] noi tapydansu gi'e te skina

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|lo xe fanva
|lo pemci
|[[pa sepli falnu]]
|[[la gleki]]
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|la Mixail Lermontov noi rusko pemci se cuntu
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|lo xe fanva
|lo skina
|[[la ernace]] cu me lo lisri noi da kartuna filme
|[[la gleki]]
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[http://selpahi.de/oz.html lo se manci te makfa pe la .oz.]
|[[User:Selpa'i|la selpa'i]]
|''The Wizard of Oz''
|L. Frank Baum
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[lo selfri be la .alis. bei bu'u la selmacygu'e]]
|[[User:Xorxes|la xorxes]]
|''Alice's Adventures In Wonderland''
|''Lewis Carroll''
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[le xlali cfari]]
|[[la gleki]]
|''The Bad Beginning''
|la'ogy.Lemony Snicket.gy.
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[le cmalu noltru]]
|[[User:xorxes|la xorxes]]
|''Le Petit Prince''
|''Antoine de Saint-Exupéry''
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[ca lo kurki cacra]]
|la [[nitcion]] e [[la gleki]]
|''On A Bitter Occasion''
|Kalman Kalocsay, Esperanto poet
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[daudydjin|.daudydjin.]]
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|''Tao Te Ching''
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|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[American Declaration of Independence|lo amerik ke gubni se cusku pe lo nu zifre]]
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|''American Declaration of Independence''
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|lo pu'o xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[le prije ctuca]]
|lo lojbo cecmu
|''The Prophet''
|''Kahlil Gibran''
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[lo nu binxo]]
|[[User:xorxes|la xorxes]]
|''Die Verwandlung'' (Spanish translation)
|''Franz Kafka''
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[lo nenri be lo spati denmi]]
|[[User:guskant|la guskant]]
|''藪の中 (yabu-no-naka)''
|''芥川龍之介 (AKUTAGAWA Ryunosuke)''
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[Little Things|Little Things]]
|[[User:Jordan DeLong|Jordan DeLong]]
|''Little Things''
|''Raymond Carver''
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[tu'a le cukta|tu'a le cukta]]
|[[User:Jordan DeLong|Jordan DeLong]]
|The Book
|H. P. [[Lovecraft|Lovecraft]]
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[My Version of 'The Book'|My version of 'The Book']]
|[[Michael Helsem|Michael Helsem]]
|The Book
|H. P. [[Lovecraft|Lovecraft]]
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[le nanmu kujo'u le since|le nanmu kujo'u le since]]
|[[User:Jordan DeLong|Jordan DeLong]]
|The man and the Snake
|Ambrose Bierce
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[Emerald Tablets|Emerald Tablets]]
|la kreig.daniyl
|[[Emerald Tablets|Emerald Tablets]]
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[http://selpahi.de/snimeblabi.html la snime blabi]
|[[User:Selpa'i|la selpa'i]]
|[http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schneewittchen Schneewittchen]
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[gilgamec|prologue to Gilgamesh]]
|Andrew Piekarski
|Gilgamesh
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[le gusta co minde mutce|The Restaurant of Many Orders]]
|[[User:Tijlan|tijlan]]
|The Restaurant of Many Orders
|宮澤賢治 (MIYAZAWA Kenji)
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[ko'a marji lo rectu|ko'a marji lo rectu]]
|Pierre Abbat
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|Terry Bisson
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[Not a Box|Not a Box]]
|Michael Turniansky
|Not a Box
|Antoinette Portis
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[Esther|la .ester.]]
|Michael Turniansky
|The Bible. Esther
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|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[donkixotes|Don Quixote]]
|[[User:xorxes|la xorxes]]
|Don Quixote
|Cervantes
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[:File:makin.pdf|la .makin.]]
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|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[le junla zbasu|The Clockmaker]]
|[[User:xorxes|la xorxes]]
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|R. L. Stevenson
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[le saske smani|The Scientific Ape]]
|[[User:xorxes|la xorxes]]
|
|R. L. Stevenson
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[la ckuzda pe la babel]]
|[[User:xorxes|la xorxes]]
|La Biblioteca de Babel
|Jorge Luis Borges
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[nuncanci la krispinas ambylis]]
|[[User:Adam Cooper|komfo,amonan]]
|The disappearance of Crispina Umberleigh
|Saki
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[le mu xamgu pe lo nunji'e]]
|[[User:Adam Cooper|komfo,amonan]]
|The five boons of life
|Mark Twain
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[la lisri be lo nanla joi lo cipnrfalko]]
|[[User:Tsani|la tsani]]
|
|
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[la krasi be lai .xacacin.]]
|[[User:Tsani|la tsani]]
|
|
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[la tcuang e le toldi|la tcuang e le toldi]]
|chrisdone
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|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[The Princess and the Pea|The Princess and the Pea]]
|lo lojbo cecmu
|
|
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[carvi|carvi]]
|[[User:Michael Helsem|Michael Helsem]]
|Rain
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|-
|lo vrici
|lo jai zdile
|[[zdilisri]]
|Yanis Batura
|Anecdotes in Lojban
|
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo jai zdile
|[[AllYourBase]]
|lo lojbo cecmu
|All your base are belong to us
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|-
|lo lojbo
|lo lisxra
|[[lei lojbo|lei lojbo]]
|lo lojbo cecmu
|Lojbanic comics (Original)
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|-
|lo lojbo
|lo lisxra
|'''[http://idiomdrottning.org Sandra Snan comics]'''
|lo lojbo cecmu
|Lojbanic comics (Original)
|
|-
|lo lojbo
|lo lisxra
|'''[http://jbotcan.org/jbo/src/1365368758728.png nu fipkalte bu'u la jbogu'e]'''
|lo lojbo cecmu
|Very badly drawn, very lame pun (in Lojban)
|
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo lisxra
|'''[http://jbotcan.org/jbo/src/1365368758728.png nu fipkalte bu'u la jbogu'e]'''
|lo lojbo cecmu
|Very badly drawn, very lame pun (in Lojban)
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|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo lisxra
|[[:File:lenumakfaprami.pdf|le nu makfa prami]] [[:File:lenumakfaprami src.zip|(OpenOffice source files)]]
|remod
|'''[http://sciacalloelettronico.it/webcomix/aloi/strega.pdf Witch in love]'''
|Sonia Aloi & Giovanni Manzoni
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo lisxra
|[[:File:linsi daplu-jbo.pdf|le linsi daplu]] [[:File:linsi daplu.zip|(OpenOffice source files)]]
|remod
|'''[http://www.rice-boy.com/shortstories.php?ti=1 The Tethered Isle]'''
|Evan Dahm
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo lisxra
|[[:File:tusks-jbo.pdf|lo jirnyde'i be la .usterim.]] [[:File:tusks.zip|(OpenOffice source files)]] Use the 2 pages in 1 view to better enjoy reading!
|remod
|'''[http://www.rice-boy.com/shortstories.php?t=1 The Tusk of Wusterim]'''
|Evan Dahm
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|lo xe fanva
|lo lisxra
|[[la mimis. .e la .iuNIZ.]]
|[[User:Wuzzy|Wuzzy]]
|'''[http://mimiandeunice.com/ Mimi and Eunice]'''
|Nina Paley
|-
|lo lojbo
|lo prosa
|[[la mu'e cuxna lo bradi|la mu'e cuxna lo bradi]]
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|[[la mu'e cuxna lo bradi|la mu'e cuxna lo bradi]]
|la blutolpinxe
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|lo lojbo
|lo prosa
|[[la balselfri be la ceitsa]] ni'o pa mo'o [[la pamoi co balselfri be la ceitsa|la cizra zarci]]
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|[[la balselfri be la ceitsa]] Part one: [[la pamoi co balselfri be la ceitsa|la cizra zarci]]
|[[User:Tsani|la tsani]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo prosa
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|The '''[http://www.lojban.org/texts/original/lojban_story.html Lojban Storytelling Game]'''
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|lo lojbo
|lo prosa
|[[la nicte cadzu|la nicte cadzu]]
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|[[la nicte cadzu|la nicte cadzu]] can all be found at [[Robin's Palm Writings|Robin's Palm Writings]] (because he wrote them on his PDA; yes, really).
|[[User:Robin Lee Powell|la camgusmis]]
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo vrici
|[[le pluta po'u le mleca se litru|le pluta po'u le mleca se litru]]
|[[cein|la .cein.]]
|''The Road Less Travelled''
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|lo lojbo
|lo vrici
|[[sidbo|sidbo]]
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|[[sidbo|sidbo]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo vrici
|[[rarna ciska|rarna ciska]]
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|[[rarna ciska|rarna ciska]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo vrici
|[[dunra|dunra]]
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|[[dunra|dunra]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo vrici
|[[la tedyxamsi|la tedyxamsi]]
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|[[la tedyxamsi|la tedyxamsi]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo vrici
|[[jitri'u xu venfu|jitri'u xu venfu]]
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|[[jitri'u xu venfu|jitri'u xu venfu]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo vrici
|[[le panoki'omoi nu viska la puzi nunstika|le panoki'omoi nu viska la puzi nunstika]]
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|[[le panoki'omoi nu viska la puzi nunstika|le panoki'omoi nu viska la puzi nunstika]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo vrici
|[[jbocu'e|jbocu'e]]
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|[[jbocu'e|jbocu'e]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo vrici
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|[[Elvish rosetta stone|Elvish rosetta stone]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo vrici
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|[[niall and elizas|niall and elizas]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo vrici
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|[[talks|talks]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo vrici
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|[[counting songs|counting songs]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo pemsoneto
|[[ko mi fraxu|ko mi fraxu]]
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|[[ko mi fraxu|ko mi fraxu]]
|[[User:xorxes|la xorxes]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo pemsoneto
|[[darvin|darvin]]
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|[[darvin|darvin]]
|[[User:xorxes|la xorxes]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo pemsoneto
|[[ckape litru|ckape litru]]
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|[[ckape litru|ckape litru]]
|[[User:xorxes|la xorxes]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo pemsoneto
|[[xukydei|xukydei]]
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|[[xukydei|xukydei]]
|[[User:xorxes|la xorxes]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo pemci
|cukta
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|[http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/cukta1.html cukta1.html], [http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/cukta2.html cukta2.html], and [http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/cukta3.html cukta3.html]. English translations will be found in [http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/book1.html book1.html], [http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/book2.html book2.html], and [http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/book3.html book3.html]
|[[User:Michael Helsem|Michael Helsem]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo pemci
|[[za'o senva|za'o senva]]
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|[[za'o senva|za'o senva]]
|[[User:Theodore Alexander Reed|bancus]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo pemci
|[[skadji|skadji]]
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|[[skadji|skadji]] from Ziryroi
|[[User:Michael Helsem|Michael Helsem]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo pemci
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|[[Silly poems|Silly poems]]
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|lo xe fanva
|lo pemci
|[[lo vensa brife]]
|[[la gleki]]
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|jungo
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|lo lojbo
|lo pemci
|[[lo so'i pemci be fi la tsani]]
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|[[lo so'i pemci be fi la tsani]]
|[[User:Tsani|la tsani]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo pemci
|[[pemcrxaiku|pemcrxaiku]]
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|[[pemcrxaiku|pemcrxaiku]]
|[[User:xorxes|la xorxes]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo pemci
|[[ci'irprosa|ci'irprosa]]
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|[[ci'irprosa|ci'irprosa]]. Preface to Ziryroi
|[[User:Michael Helsem|Michael Helsem]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo pemci
|[[sipna pemci, Robin.ca's translation|English translation of ''sipna pemci'']]
|[[User:Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]]
|[[sipna pemci|sipna pemci]]
|[[User:Broca|Arnt Richard Johansen]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo pemci
|[[sipna pemci|sipna pemci]]
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|[[sipna pemci|sipna pemci]]
|[[User:Broca|Arnt Richard Johansen]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo pemlimerika
|[[doi dirba|doi dirba]]
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|[[doi dirba|doi dirba]]
|[[User:xorxes|la xorxes]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo zgike
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|[[Lojban rock lyrics|Lojban rock lyrics]]
|[[rab.spir|Rob Speer]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo zgike
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|[[Lojban Anthem|Lojban Anthem]]
|music by [[User:Nick Nicholas|Nick Nicholas]]; words by [[User:Bob LeChevalier|Lojbab]] and [[User:Nick Nicholas|Nick Nicholas]]
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|lo xe fanva
|lo pemci
|[[xirli'u selsanga|xirli'u selsanga]]
|[[User:xorxes|la xorxes]]
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|Federico García Lorca
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|lo xe fanva
|lo pemci
|[[Litany Against Fear|Litany Against Fear]]
|[[Jordan DeLong|Jordan DeLong]]
|Litany Against Fear from the book Dune by Frank Herbert
|Bene Gesserit
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|lo xe fanva
|lo pemci
|[[Carmina Lojbana|Carmina Lojbana]]
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|Carmina Burana
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|lo xe fanva
|lo zgike
|'''[https://vimeo.com/113232481 ro roi za'u re'u ji'a]'''
|[[User:guskant|la guskant]]
|''いつも何度でも (itsumo-nando-demo)''
|覚和歌子 (KAKU Wakako, pemci), 木村弓 (KIMURA Yumi, zgike)
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|lo xe fanva
|lo zgike
|'''[https://vimeo.com/113351301 la tcungatcangas pe mu sofybakni zi'e noi xorlo je xorla]'''
|[[la gleki]] joi [[User:guskant|la guskant]]
|la'o ry чунга-чанга ry noi selsa'a
|Yuri Entin (pemci), Vladimir Shainsky (zgike finti), [[User:xorxes|la xorxes]] noi finti lo jufra pe zo sofybakni
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|lo xe fanva
|lo zgike
|'''crisa ditcu''' to '''[https://vimeo.com/113181181 lo skina]''' .a '''[http://fotono.tumblr.com/post/26278344232/uisai-iosai-iesai-la-tijlan-bao-cnino-ganzu lo sance jo'u selci'a]''' toi
|[[User:guskant|la guskant]]
|''Summertime''
|DuBose Heyward (pemci), George Gershwin (zgike finti)
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo zgike
|'''[http://fotono.tumblr.com/post/22846666936/re-moi-vreji-fi-la-byna-uan-solon-i-gau-mi-lo la .byna,uan.solon.]'''
|[[User:guskant|la guskant]]
|''Bengawan Solo''
|Gesang Martohartono
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|lo xe fanva
|lo zgike
|'''[http://fotono.tumblr.com/post/12729919114/jbedetnunsla-uidai-i-jbedetnunsla-uidai-i jbedetnunsla .uidai]'''
|[[User:guskant|la guskant]]
|''Happy birthday to you''
|lo glico
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo zgike
|'''[http://fotono.tumblr.com/post/15624731879/a-ea-pao-klama-i-miu-b-ti-seraa-ma-cinla e'a pa'o klama]'''
|[[User:guskant|la guskant]]
|''とおりゃんせ (tooryanse)''
|lo ponjo
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo zgike
|[[mi jbize'a do doi cevni]]
|la .pier.abát.
|la'o gy.'' Nearer, my God, to Thee ''.gy.
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|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo pemci
|'''[http://www.lojban.org/corpus/show/smaji%20nicte%20pensi smaji nicte pensi]'''
|[[User:guskant|la guskant]]
|''静夜思 (jìng yè sī)'' (pemci lo mumvlavonli'i la libair)
|李白 (lǐ bái)
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|lo xe fanva
|lo verba zgike
|[[da pu laldo ninmu co tunlo le sfani|da pu laldo ninmu co tunlo le sfani]]
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|"There once was an old lady who swallowed a fly"
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|lo xe fanva
|lo verba zgike
|[[The Song That Never Ends|The Song That Never Ends]]
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|The Song That Never Ends
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|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo verba zgike
|[[The Itsy Bitsy Spider|The Itsy Bitsy Spider]]
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|lo xe fanva
|lo verba zgike
|[[Old MacDonald|Old MacDonald]]
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|Old MacDonald
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|lo xe fanva
|lo verba zgike
|[[le cmalu bloti|le cmalu bloti]]
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|"The Small Boat", a French(?) traditional song
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|lo xe fanva
|lo verba zgike
|[[da kevna le baktu|da kevna le baktu]]
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|"There's a hole in the bucket"
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|lo xe fanva
|lo verba zgike
|[[doi .daiz.|doi .daiz.]]
|[[Xavier|la .xavier.]]
|"Daisy"
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|lo xe fanva
|lo verba zgike
|[[lo mlatu cu bitmu cpare|lo mlatu cu bitmu cpare]]
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|Polish children song [http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wlaz%C5%82_kotek_na_p%C5%82otek "Wlazł kotek na płotek"]
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|lo xe fanva
|lo verba zgike
|[[ctoxrula|ctoxrula]]
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|Polish children song "Stokrotka"
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|lo xe fanva
|lo verba zgike
|[[senva lo melbi|senva lo melbi]]
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|Lullaby(?)
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|lo xe fanva
|lo verba zgike
|'''[https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/3SkKfYiF1Fk/discussion ro lo ma'a datka]''' to [[User:guskant|la guskant]] fa'u [[User:Tijlan|la tijlan]] sanga fa'u zgike bo ganzu ja'e tu'a zoi dy [[:File:datka.mp3|datka.mp3]] dy toi
|[[User:Selpa'i|la selpa'i]]
|Alle meine Entchen
|lo dotco
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|lo lojbo
|lo na cfika
|Original Lojban-language page about the MBTI
|
|[[le menli cipra pe la .mairz. joi la .brigz.|le menli cipra pe la .mairz. joi la .brigz.]]
|[[User:PlasticRaven|Plastic Raven]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo na cfika
|A brief description of Tolkien's [[tenguar|Tengwar]] in Lojban
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|[[tenguar|Tengwar]]
|Elrond
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|lo lojbo
|lo na cfika
|'''[http://guskant.github.io/lojbo/cipra.html cipra lo skari lo vanju]'''
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|'''[http://guskant.github.io/lojbo/cipra.html cipra lo skari lo vanju]'''
|[[User:guskant|la guskant]] noi zukte lo xukmi cipra
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|lo lojbo
|lo cmaci
|'''[http://guskant.github.io/lojbo/jetnujarco.html jarco lo ka na me la individual]'''
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|'''[http://guskant.github.io/lojbo/jetnujarco.html jarco lo ka na me la individual]'''
|[[User:guskant|la guskant]] noi logji je'urja'o
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|lo lojbo
|lo na cfika
|'''[https://vimeo.com/album/3148016 bripre jikca]'''
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|'''[https://vimeo.com/album/3148016 bripre jikca]'''
|[[User:guskant|la guskant]] noi te skina ku'o joi lo so'i se jbobau
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|lo lojbo
|lo zgike
|'''[https://vimeo.com/113056241 bripre jikca selsa'a]'''
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|'''[https://vimeo.com/113056241 bripre jikca selsa'a]'''
|[[User:guskant|la guskant]] noi finti lo jufra ku'o joi [[la bripre]] noi sanga ku'o joi [[User:Tijlan|la tijlan]] noi zgike ganzu
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo na cfika
|[[The Gateless Gate|The Gateless Gate]]
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|sanxiyn
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|lo xe fanva
|lo na cfika
|[[Single Transferrable Vote|Single Transferrable Vote]] . i lo lojbo info
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|[[Single Transferrable Vote|Single Transferrable Vote]] system
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|lo xe fanva
|lo se kelci
|[[Broken Phone|Broken Phone]]
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|lo xe fanva
|lo se kelci
|[[la cibyska|la cibyska]]
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|"Tri-Versity"
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|lo xe fanva
|lo se kelci
|[[Broken Phone|Broken Phone]]
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|lo xe fanva
|lo se kelci
|[[Lojban Scrabble|Lojban Scrabble]]
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|lo xe fanva
|lo se kelci
|[[la .nomik.|la .nomik.]]
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|Nomic
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|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo se kelci
|[[MMORPG|MMORPG]]
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|lo xe fanva
|lo se kelci
|[[Role-playing Games|Role-playing Games]]
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|lo xe fanva
|lo se kelci
|[[kucyvla|kucyvla]]
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|Crossword puzzles
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|lo pu'o xe fanva
|lo cmaci
|[[ctununta'a la feinman fi lo nu kanji|ctununta'a la feinman fi lo nu kanji]]
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|the Feynman Lectures on Computation
|[[User:Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]]
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo cmaci
|[[mathematical proof|mathematical proof]]
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|lo xe fanva
|lo cmaci
|[[Axiom of stratified comprehension--Mekso example|axiom of stratified comprehension]]
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|New Foundations' [[Axiom of stratified comprehension--Mekso example|axiom of stratified comprehension]] in mekso and bridi math.
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|lo xe fanva
|lo cmaci
|'''[http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/algebra A translation of the first page of a higher algebra text]'''
|Nick Nicholas
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|lo xe fanva
|lo cmaci
|[[Mathematical induction|Mathematical induction]]
|[[User:selpa'i|la selpa'i]]
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|lo pu'o xe fanva
|lo cmaci
|[[lojbo nu menkanji|lojbo nu menkanji]]
|[[User:selpa'i|la selpa'i]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo vrici
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|[[Tautologies and Tongue-Twisters In Lojban|Tautologies and Tongue-Twisters in Lojban]]
|la .kevin., [[User:tsali|tsali]], gejyspa
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|lo lojbo
|lo vrici
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|Mini-sagas on [[Alan Libert|Alan Libert]] [[xaurselfunca gugde|The Lucky Country]], and [[Codex Woldemar|Codex Woldemar]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo vrici
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|The renowned argument on palatals in [[tavla fi le tutra pe le terdi|tavla fi le tutra pe le terdi]]
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|lo lojbo
|lo vrici
|'''[https://vimeo.com/113458410 bripre ni'o pa mo'o li re te'a ny.]'''
|
|'''[https://vimeo.com/113458410 bripre ni'o pa mo'o li re te'a ny.]'''
|[[User:guskant|la guskant]]
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|lo xe fanva
|lo pixra draci
|'''[https://vimeo.com/140852144 bripre ni'o re mo'o lei cmalu narge .e le cmana mlatu]'''
|[[User:guskant|la guskant]]
|''どんぐりと山猫 (donguri-to-yamaneko)''
|''宮澤賢治 (MIYAZAWA Kenji)''
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|'''[http://ponjbogri.github.io/cemfanva/niwa/niwa2013.html lu za'ure'u gau draci lo ka gubni sei fe lu'e lo ve ciksi be lo larcu reci bangu cu fanva se'u to lo poi la .ni,uan.iocinor. cu cmizu'e fi ke'a ku'o selpla be ca lo detri be li renonovo ga'o bi'o ga'o renopare toi li'u]'''
|la ponjbogri
|''『公共性を再演する | 作品の解説を23種類の言語に翻訳する丹羽良徳の2004年から2012年の介入プロジェクト』''
|丹羽良徳 (NIWA Yoshinori)
|-
|lo pu'o xe fanva
|lo cfika
|[[Hamlet|Hamlet]]
|lo lojbo cecmu
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|lo xe fanva
|lo bangyske
|[[Conlang Test Sentences|Conlang Test Sentences]]
|lo lojbo cecmu
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|lo xe fanva
|lo progyske
|[[Perl the first postmodern programming language|Perl the first postmodern programming language]]
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|Larry Wall
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo se kelci
|[[The Legend Of Zelda|The Legend of Zelda]]
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|lo xe fanva
|lo skina
|[[elephants dream|Elephants Dream]]
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[Comedy Tonight|Comedy Tonight]]
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[Some fables by Aesop]]
|Nick Nicholas
|xelso
|Aesop
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo cmaci
|'''[http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/algebra A translation of the first page of a higher algebra text]'''
|Nick Nicholas
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[A few lines from Beowulf]] an attempt to preserve the semantic and syntactic devices of the original
|John Cowan
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[Cardplayer]]
|Nick Nicholas
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[Christ nor Devil]]
|Nick Nicholas
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|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[Nicene Creed]], a major Christian statement of faith, from the Greek
|Nick Nicholas
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|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/dialogues_of_the_dead Short story by Lucian of Samosata]''', 2nd-century Greek author
|Nick Nicholas.
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/freddy_germanos Part of a book by Freddy Germanos]''', modern Greek journalist
|Nick Nicholas.
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/g s_song Song "The Merryman & His Maid"]''', aka "I Have A Song To Sing, O!" from the Gilbert & Sullivan operetta Yeomen of the Guard
|[[User:Bob LeChevalier|Lojbab]].
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[Genesis]]
|Mark Shoulson.
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/legend A Roman legend]''', composed in Polish by Orzekso, translated into Esperanto by Kabe
|Nick Nicholas.
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/lithuanian_song translation of an Esperanto translation of a Lithuanian/Polish folk song]'''. The Esperanto version appeared in the Esperanto Fundamental Chrestomathy in 1905
|Nick Nicholas.
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/lordpray A prosaic version of the Lord's Prayer from the New Testament]'''. From the English, corrected by reference to the Greek
|[[User:Bob LeChevalier|Lojbab]].
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/luther_king Martin Luther King's famous "I Have A Dream" speech]'''
|Nick Nicholas.
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/maxwell_tales Several very short Chinese folk tales]'''
|Preston Maxwell, rev. Nick Nicholas.
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/mikhalski A poem by Soviet Esperantist Evgeny Mikhalski]'''
|Nick Nicholas.
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/mildew "The Mildew of the World", written in Polish by Boleslaw Prus]''', translated into Esperanto by Kabe
|Nick Nicholas.
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/moser A self-referential story by David Moser]''', printed in Douglas Hofstadter's column and book Metamagical Themas. Every sentence refers to itself, including the title, which is "This is the title of the story, which is repeated several times in the story itself." Perfect for Lojban
|Nick Nicholas.
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/red_death The first few paragraphs of Edgar Allan Poe's "The Masque of the Red Death"]'''
|Jorge Llambias.
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/ringo-starr An interview by Freddy Germanos of Ringo Starr]''', presumably conducted in English, but published in Greek
|Nick Nicholas.
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|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/roughton A text by Ralph Roughton]''', origin unknown
|Colin Fine.
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|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/tsiforos from "Greek Mythology" by modern Greek humorist and slang devotee Nikos Tsiforos]'''
|Nick Nicholas.
|
|
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/whyte A single paragraph by scientist/writer Lancelot Law Whyte]'''. Contains English original, Lojban translation, word-by-word gloss, and a word-by- word gloss of a 1977 Loglan version by J.R. Atkins, showing the different styles of tanru in effect at that time
|Nick Nicholas.
|
|
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/words1.txt Lyric from a Suzanne Vega song, "Words"]'''
|[[User:Bob LeChevalier|Lojbab]], with commentary based on Nick Nicholas's translation of the same poem into other artificial languages. Also available [http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/words_poem.tex in TeX format].
|
|
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmW92vwNRWw A (very) short video clip in Esperanto] with Lojban subtitles
|
|
|
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|'''lojbo kamjikca lisri''' This is a web-based story in lojban that you can add to. At each step of the story, you make a choice. When you reach the end of what others have written, you can add your own part to the story.
|lojbo cecmu
|'''[http://www.lojban.org/texts/original/lojban_story/story/story.pl Lojbanic Interactive Story]'''
|
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo lisxra
|'''[http://languages.geekworld.dk/wiki/index.php/Freefall_in_Lojban Ongoing wiki translation of the Freefall comics]''' Warning: no translated pictures until any full translation appears.
|
|
|
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo prosa
|[[la .berbif. joi la .sol.]]
|Nick Nicholas.
|North Wind And Sun
|
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo se cilre
|[[le lisxra cu xe fanva fo zo'oi Ceqli|le lisxra cu xe fanva fo zo'oi Ceqli]] is the Lojban translation of the Ceqli. Note that some comics relax the rule on Lojban orthography. The most common non-standard orthography is for {.i} which in some comic is rendered without the initial dot and in others is replaced by a colon ':'.
|[[User:.aionys.|la .aionys.]]
|[http://ceqli.pbworks.com/w/page/41974416/Ceqli%20through%20pictures Ceqli through pictures]
|
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo verba lisri
|[[le lunra jo'u le mapku]], [[:File:719.sip|le lunra jo'u le mapku]]
|[[la remod]]
|
|Noni, Angie & Upesh
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo verba lisri
|[[:File:725.sip|le virnu smani blozeile'a]]
|[[la remod]]
|"The Brave Monkey Pirate"
|Heyes Roberts
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo verba lisri
|[[The Berenstain Bears and the Prize Pumpkin]]
|Michael Turniansky
|The Berenstain Bears and the Prize Pumpkin
|
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo verba lisri
|[[The Berenstain Bears Get in a Fight]], [[Berenstain_Bears_in_a_Fight.ogg]], [[Berenstain_Fight_Tengwar.zip]]
|Andrew Piekarski, reviewed by Michael Turniansky
|The Berenstain Bears Get in a Fight
|
|-
|lo lojbo
|lo verba lisri
|[[la teris. po'u lo tirxu cu vitke zi'o le barda tcadu]]
|Michael Turniansky
|
|
|-
|lo sampu lojbo
|lo verba lisri
|'''[http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/tikitiki "Tikki-Tikki Tembo"]'''
|John Cowan
|
|classic Chinese children's folktale
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo verba lisri
|[[:File:890.sip|lo dalpe'o dinsauru]]
|[[la remod]]
|If I had a pet dinosaur
|Gil Robles
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo verba lisri
|[[Goodnight Moon]]
|[[UserPagePlasticRaven|Plastic Raven]]
|Goodnight Moon
|
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo verba lisri
|[[Green Eggs and Ham]]
|[[UserPagePlasticRaven|Plastic Raven]]
|Green Eggs and Ham
|
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo verba lisri
|[[la cmalu je xunre mapku]]
|[[la vensa]]
|Little Red Riding Hood
|
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo verba lisri
|[[la .slokrebaf. .e le ci cribe]]
|[[la vensa]]
|Goldilocks and The Three Bears
|
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo verba lisri
|[[le tumcakrespa .e le clakeryractu]]
|[[la vensa]]
|The Tortoise and The Hare
|
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo verba lisri
|[[le cmalu je xunre jipcyfe'i]]
|[[la vensa]]
|The Little Red Hen
|
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo verba lisri
|[[le dunda tricu]]
|[[la vensa]]
|The Giving Tree
|
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo verba lisri
|'''[http://xanrilisri.thecomicseries.com lo'i xanri lisri fi la .esop.]'''
|
|
|la .aisopos.
|-
|lo xe fanva
|lo se sanga
|[[sanga do'e la iore'e palys atinys]]
|la .az.
|
|
|
|-
|lo lojbo
|lo pemci
|[[lo ka morsi]]
|la seltcidu
|
|}
==Other resources (to be included into the table)==
*[[lojban music]]
*la'o gy.[[Lojban CVS Server]].gy. cu stuzi lo vrici ke cecmu xe fanva
*There are no [[movies|movies]] yet.
*This is '''[http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/archives/ Lojbab's full text and text discussion archive]''' (which is actually only complete up until around 1993).
*Some [http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/ texts] on the server might not be included into the table above.
* Five files of text and discussion thereof, extracted from '''1994 Lojban List traffic''', may be found in [http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/1994m1.txt 1994m1.txt], [http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/1994m2.txt 1994m2.txt], [http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/1994m3.txt 1994m3.txt], [http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/1994m4.txt 1994m4.txt], and [http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/1994m5.txt 1994m5.txt]. This was the first year when significant amounts of interactive Lojban text were posted by Lojbanists other than Nick Nicholas, Lojbab, or people taught directly by Lojbab.
* '''[http://www.lojban.org/files/texts/allphone.ZIP A compendium of the results from runs of the "phone game"]''' a chain letter of translations between Lojban and English with humorous distortions at each step.
*Sh. Holmes: https://github.com/phma/xolmyz
* The Bible:
**'''[http://www.lojban.org/texts/translations/drbible/ la xriso biblia]''' noi du la'o gy.''The Christian Bible''.gy.
**https://github.com/phma/lojban-bible
* [[Old lojban.org Page Translations|Old lojban.org Page Translations]]
== Bilingual works ==
Bilingual texts with explained vocabulary in order of appearance.
* [[:File:relbau tercidu - la teris. vitke zi'o le barda tcadu.pdf|Terry the Tiger Visits the Big City]] (''la teris. vitke zi'o le barda tcadu'')
* [[:File:le saske smani.pdf|The Scientific Ape]] (''le saske smani'')
[[Category:pemci]][[Category:prosa]][[Category:te gerna la lojban]]

Welcome!1/en

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<div style="font-size: 1.5em; font-family: sans-serif">Lojban (pronounced [ˈloʒban]) is an experiment in human language – a constructed language based on formal logic.</div>

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==What is Lojban?==
[[Image:yt-lightning talk.png|240x160px|a «lightning talk» introduction to Lojban by Timo Paulssen|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdlGxgKt7nc|thumb]]
[[Image:yt-lesson in lojban i.png|240x160px|«Lessons in Lojban» by Dustin Lacewell|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZjSTUK3hFI|thumb]]

Lojban is a carefully constructed spoken language. It has been built for over 50 years by dozens of workers and hundreds of supporters.

*Lojban's grammar is simpler than of most natural languages, but complex in its own unique way. Lojban is an experiment in thought, as well: its users aim to see how its unique language structures affect thought and understanding.
*Lojban allows the expression of tiny nuances in emotion, using words called [[attitudinals]], which are essentially spoken emoticons.
*Lojban allows you to communicate concisely without unnecessary or undesired details. For example, you don't have to always think of what tense (past, present or future) to use in a verb when it's already clear from context.
*Lojban is machine parsable, which allows potential new explorations in the fields of artificial intelligence and machine translation.

*Lojban has a live community of speakers expanding its vocabulary day by day.
*Lojban is designed aiming at being neutral between cultures.
===Lojban means different things to different people===
* a linguistic curiosity - a test-bed for language experimentation
* a challenging way to expand their minds or discipline their thoughts
* a new perspective on languages
* an entertaining medium to communicate with friends or create art
* a domain for exploring the intersection of human language and software

What will Lojban mean for you?
===[[Presenting Lojban|More basic information ...]]===
{{clear}}
== Learning Lojban ==
=== Unofficial and supplemental resources ===
[[Image:yt-the perfect-lang.png|240x160px|«The Perfect Language», an introduction to Lojban by [https://twitter.com/WesleyWilson00 Wesley Wilson]|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIpn0OEpT40|thumb]]
[[Image:yt-ro lo maha datka.png|240x160px|«ro lo ma'a datka» and other Lojban songs by [[la guskant]]|link=https://vimeo.com/album/3152276|thumb]]
Different non-authoritative learning resources have been created. They are said to be more beginner-friendly.
* A set of [[pronunciation|pronunciation guides]]
* [https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Yrxt9gAtqA_oSDD76Toq8VLSZjjOxJ5rkKsxFs3Cw8E/pub?start=true&loop=false&delayms=5000 Lojban in simple phrases], an introduction (also available in [http://mw.lojban.org/images/d/d1/Lojban._How_to_quickly_create_sentences.pdf PDF])
* [[Lojban Wave Lessons|Wave Lessons]], a popular textbook
* [[The Crash Course (a draft)|"The Crash Course"]], a draft of a textbook
* [[la karda|la karda]], a rapid-fire overview of the grammar in small pieces

=== Official resources ===
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/ "The Complete Lojban Language", a reference grammar of Lojban]. This book will help those who already understand some Lojban. It's the most complete reference of Lojban language by far. It does not, however, teach vocabulary, style, or colloquial language. Please note that since the initial publication of the reference grammar, some language reforms such as [[How to use xorlo|xorlo]] have become widely adopted.

=== Dictionaries ===
* [http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/ la jbovlaste] is a prescriptive, editable, multilingual dictionary. It is considered by many to be the current de-facto standard dictionary of Lojban. Many other dictionaries and tools are based on it.
* [http://vlasisku.lojban.org/ la vlasisku] is an online English—Lojban dictionary, based on data of la jbovlaste; intended to be more user-friendly (note: it is only irregularily updated, la jbovlaste is more up-to-date).
* [https://lojban.herokuapp.com/ la sutysisku] is an online multilingual Lojban dictionary (including English) that also works offline. Updated at least once a month.
* [https://sites.google.com/site/slovlacukt/file-cabinet la slovlacukt], an alternative offline dictionary.
* [http://guskant.github.io/lojbo/stardict.html Stardict dictionaries in some languages] (usable with [http://goldendict.org/ GoldenDict], [https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dictionary-universal/id312088272?mt=8 Dictionary Universal], etc.)
* [http://guskant.github.io/lojbo/gismu-cmavo.html Multilingual gismu (root word) and cmavo (particle) lists in tsv and html formats]
* [[Word frequency lists|Word lists ordered by frequency of use]]

==== Related things ====
* An unofficial [[Simple gismu|list of simple definitions of gismu]]
* Example sentences at [http://tatoeba.org Tatoeba.org]

=== Software tools ===
* [http://www.memrise.com/courses/english/lojban/ Memrise.com] offers on-line Lojban vocabulary flashcards. [http://ankisrs.net/ Anki] is a downloadable alternative.
* [http://lojban.github.io/ilmentufa/camxes.html la camxes] is an automatic grammar of Lojban. It can help you to understand the structure and correctness of sentences.
* [http://lojban.lilyx.net/zmifanva/ A Lojban-to-English translator]. It is not precise, it can sometimes fail to correctly translate from English to Lojban or vice versa. It can be used to get at least some understanding of how Lojban works.

=== [[Learning materials. Secondary links|Other learning materials ...]] ===

== Connect with the community ==
[[Image:yt-bripre jikca 9.png|240x160px|«bripre jikca», a community literary vlog|link=https://vimeo.com/112783041|thumb]]
[[Image:yt-baho.png|240x160px|«ba'o», a song by [https://djemynai.bandcamp.com La Djemynai]|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG4jyHG-hv8|thumb]]

Lojban is spoken by a vibrant community, producing literature, music, and art, and discussing questions about language and thought. The web comic [https://www.xkcd.com/191/ xkcd] said that, if you spoke Lojban, you'd have to speak with Lojbanists. That may not be such a bad thing!

=== Instant messaging (text chat) ===


====Connecting quickly====
To get connected to Lojban chat use any of the following methods (your and others' messages will be available in all of them no matter which method you use).

People involved in Lojban community usually read each day's backlog and will answer your questions within several hours and often even within minutes.

====Telegram====
Using this method you will be able to read the history of the chat since the beginning of 2016.

# Install the free [https://telegram.org Telegram messenger] on your Apple, Android or your desktop device
# join main Lojban chat groups by following these links:
#*[https://telegram.me/joinchat/BLVsYz3hCF-CtYw0-2IkqQ Lojban], [https://telegram.me/joinchat/BLVsYz4hC9ulWahupDLovA ckule], [https://telegram.me/joinchat/BLVsYz20Boixl0xN-0TrPw jbosnu]
# Ask questions on Lojban in '''ckule''' group, talk in or about Lojban in '''Lojban''' group and talk only in Lojban in '''jbosnu''' group.

====Slack====
Using this method you will be able to read the history of the chat for the last ~7 days or so.
# Open https://slaka.herokuapp.com Submit your email and get an invite to http://lojban.slack.com to your e-mail inbox.
# Open http://lojban.slack.com
# Ask questions on Lojban in #ckule channel, talk in or about Lojban in #lojban channel and talk only in Lojban in #jbosnu channel.

====Direct web access====
Using this method you will be able to see messages that are sent only while you are connected.
#Navigate to [{{Webchat url kiwi}} the web-based IRC client (Kiwi)], choose a nickname you want yourself to be known as, and click "Start". Easy!
#Click on the channel you want (tabs on the top of the page), and type your text in the text bar at the bottom - the last line at the bottom of the chat page.
#Ask questions on Lojban in #ckule tab, talk in or about Lojban in #lojban tab and talk only in Lojban in #jbosnu tab.

You may alternately try [[Lojban_Live_Chat#Direct_web_access|other methods of connecting]].

=== Mailing lists ===
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The [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/topics lojban-beginners mailing list] is for questions about learning and understanding Lojban. You can subscribe to the list by sending a question to [mailto:lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com].

The general-purpose [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/topics lojban mailing list], which covers anything else related to Lojban, was founded in 1989, and has about 500 subscribers. You can subscribe to it by sending an email to [mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com lojban@googlegroups.com].

=== Social media ===
Lojban has a presence on many of the most popular web sites: [[Image:Facebook_Logo_Mini.svg|12px|link=http://facebook.com/groups/Lojban/]] [http://facebook.com/groups/Lojban/ Facebook], [[Image:Google plus icon.svg|12px|link=https://plus.google.com/communities/105661163321603750740]] [https://plus.google.com/communities/105661163321603750740 Google+], [[Image:reddit-12.png|12px|link=http://www.reddit.com/r/lojban/]] [http://www.reddit.com/r/lojban/ Reddit], [[Image:quora.png|12px|link=http://www.quora.com/Lojban]] [http://www.quora.com/Lojban Quora].

[http://jbotcan.org/ la jbotcan] is an informal bulletin board which hosts images and discussions in Lojban and English.

=== International Contacts ===

[[Image:yt higher logic.png|240x160px|an exposition by [[User:Guskant|la guskant]] in Japanese|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzqhNYCWKLo|thumb]]

{| class="wikitable"
!   !! Languages spoken
|-
| [[User:Selpahi|la selpa'i]] [mailto:seladwa@gmx.de seladwa@gmx.de] || English, German
|-
| [[User:Gleki|la gleki]] [mailto:bangu@lojban.org bangu@lojban.org] || English, Russian
|-
| [[User:Ilmen|la ilmen]] [mailto:ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com] || English, French
|-
| [[User:Tsani|la tsani]] [mailto:nictytan@gmail.com nictytan@gmail.com] || English, French
|-
| [[User:xorxes|la xorxes]] [mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com jjllambias@gmail.com] || English, Spanish
|-
| [[User:Guskant|la guskant]] [mailto:gusni.kantu@gmail.com gusni.kantu@gmail.com] || English, French, Chinese, Japanese, Esperanto
|-
| [[User:Remod|la remod]] [mailto:rdentato@gmail.com rdentato@gmail.com] || English, Italian
|}

=== [[Lojban around the world]] - other ways of communication ... ===

== What's next? ==
* Try reading Lojban [[te gerna la lojban|texts]]. Start with something shorter and easier such as "[[la .teris. po'u lo tirxu cu vitke zi'o le barda tcadu|Terry the Tiger]]" (audio is available) or "[[The Berenstain Bears and the Prize Pumpkin]]" ([http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/maltufa-1.1.html a parser suitable to those two texts]). When you're ready, move on to "[[le cmalu noltru|The Little Prince]]" (suitable parser: [http://lojban.github.io/ilmentufa/camxes.html camxes]) and "[http://selpahi.de/oz.html The Wonderful Wizard of Oz]" (suitable parser: [[maftufa]]).

* Try your hand at translating into Lojban, or write your own original texts: Poetry, prose, blogs, tweets, etc.
* Continue learning vocabulary using [[Lojbanic Software|memorization software]].
* Help expand the [http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/ dictionary] by translating Lojban words into other languages, or coin new compound words and add them.

===[[What's next?|More info ...]]===

----
<div style="font-size:90%;">This web site is dedicated to documenting Lojban and the activities of the Lojban-using community, and also serves as the official web site of the [[Logical Language Group]] (LLG), a non-profit organization founded in 1987 to promote the scientific study of the relationships between language, thought and human culture.</div>

<noinclude>[[Category:tadni]][[Category:nu jikca]][[Category:jbopre]]</noinclude>__NOTOC__

Welcome!1/en

2016-08-23T16:42:00Z

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Welcome!1/en

2016-08-23T16:19:32Z

Ractu:

<div style="font-size: 1.5em; font-family: sans-serif">Lojban (pronounced [ˈloʒban]) is an experiment in human language – a constructed language based on formal logic.</div>

<div style="border:3px solid orange;width:calc(100%-20px);padding:5px;margin:8px;text-align:center;font-size:120%;">
Want a StackExchange website for questions and answers about Lojban? Help us make it a reality.[https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/83133/jbobau-joi-jboceu-lojban-language-and-culture Register and press "Commit"!]</div>

==What is Lojban?==
[[Image:yt-lightning talk.png|240x160px|a «lightning talk» introduction to Lojban by Timo Paulssen|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdlGxgKt7nc|thumb]]
[[Image:yt-lesson in lojban i.png|240x160px|«Lessons in Lojban» by Dustin Lacewell|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZjSTUK3hFI|thumb]]

Lojban is a carefully constructed spoken language. It has been built for over 50 years by dozens of workers and hundreds of supporters.

*Lojban's grammar is simpler than of most natural languages, but complex in its own unique way. Lojban is an experiment in thought, as well: its users aim to see how its unique language structures affect thought and understanding.
*Lojban allows the expression of tiny nuances in emotion, using words called [[attitudinals]], which are essentially spoken emoticons.
*Lojban allows you to communicate concisely without unnecessary or undesired details. For example, you don't have to always think of what tense (past, present or future) to use in a verb when it's already clear from context.
*Lojban is machine parsable, which allows potential new explorations in the fields of artificial intelligence and machine translation.

*Lojban has a live community of speakers expanding its vocabulary day by day.
*Lojban is designed aiming at being neutral between cultures.
===Lojban means different things to different people===
* a linguistic curiosity - a test-bed for language experimentation
* a challenging way to expand their minds or discipline their thoughts
* a new perspective on languages
* an entertaining medium to communicate with friends or create art
* a domain for exploring the intersection of human language and software

What will Lojban mean for you?
===[[Presenting Lojban|More basic information ...]]===
{{clear}}
== Learning Lojban ==
=== Unofficial and supplemental resources ===
[[Image:yt-the perfect-lang.png|240x160px|«The Perfect Language», an introduction to Lojban by [https://twitter.com/WesleyWilson00 Wesley Wilson]|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIpn0OEpT40|thumb]]
[[Image:yt-ro lo maha datka.png|240x160px|«ro lo ma'a datka» and other Lojban songs by [[la guskant]]|link=https://vimeo.com/album/3152276|thumb]]
Different non-authoritative learning resources have been created. They are said to be more beginner-friendly.
* A set of [[pronunciation|pronunciation guides]]
* [https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Yrxt9gAtqA_oSDD76Toq8VLSZjjOxJ5rkKsxFs3Cw8E/pub?start=true&loop=false&delayms=5000 Lojban in simple phrases], an introduction (also available in [http://mw.lojban.org/images/d/d1/Lojban._How_to_quickly_create_sentences.pdf PDF])
* [[Lojban Wave Lessons|Wave Lessons]], a popular textbook
* [[The Crash Course (a draft)|"The Crash Course"]], a draft of a textbook
* [[la karda|la karda]], a rapid-fire overview of the grammar in small pieces

=== Official resources ===
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/ "The Complete Lojban Language", a reference grammar of Lojban]. This book will help those who already understand some Lojban. It's the most complete reference of Lojban language by far. It does not, however, teach vocabulary, style, or colloquial language. Please note that since the initial publication of the reference grammar, some language reforms such as [[How to use xorlo|xorlo]] have become widely adopted.

=== Dictionaries ===
* [http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/ la jbovlaste] is a prescriptive, editable, multilingual dictionary. It is considered by many to be the current de-facto standard dictionary of Lojban. Many other dictionaries and tools are based on it.
* [http://vlasisku.lojban.org/ la vlasisku] is an online English—Lojban dictionary, based on data of la jbovlaste; intended to be more user-friendly (note: it is only irregularily updated, la jbovlaste is more up-to-date).
* [https://lojban.herokuapp.com/ la sutysisku] is an online multilingual Lojban dictionary (including English) that also works offline. Updated at least once a month.
* [https://sites.google.com/site/slovlacukt/file-cabinet la slovlacukt], an alternative offline dictionary.
* [http://guskant.github.io/lojbo/stardict.html Stardict dictionaries in some languages] (usable with [http://goldendict.org/ GoldenDict], [https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dictionary-universal/id312088272?mt=8 Dictionary Universal], etc.)
* [http://guskant.github.io/lojbo/gismu-cmavo.html Multilingual gismu (root word) and cmavo (particle) lists in tsv and html formats]
* [[Word frequency lists|Word lists ordered by frequency of use]]

==== Related things ====
* An unofficial [[Simple gismu|list of simple definitions of gismu]]
* Example sentences at [http://tatoeba.org Tatoeba.org]

=== Software tools ===
* [http://www.memrise.com/courses/english/lojban/ Memrise.com] offers on-line Lojban vocabulary flashcards. [http://ankisrs.net/ Anki] is a downloadable alternative.
* [http://lojban.github.io/ilmentufa/camxes.html la camxes] is an automatic grammar of Lojban. It can help you to understand the structure and correctness of sentences.
* [http://lojban.lilyx.net/zmifanva/ A Lojban-to-English translator]. It is not precise, it can sometimes fail to correctly translate from English to Lojban or vice versa. It can be used to get at least some understanding of how Lojban works.

=== [[Learning materials. Secondary links|Other learning materials ...]] ===

== Connect with the community ==
[[Image:yt-bripre jikca 9.png|240x160px|«bripre jikca», a community literary vlog|link=https://vimeo.com/112783041|thumb]]
[[Image:yt-baho.png|240x160px|«ba'o», a song by [https://djemynai.bandcamp.com La Djemynai]|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG4jyHG-hv8|thumb]]

Lojban is spoken by a vibrant community, producing literature, music, and art, and discussing questions about language and thought. The web comic [https://www.xkcd.com/191/ xkcd] said that, if you spoke Lojban, you'd have to speak with Lojbanists. That may not be such a bad thing!

=== Instant messaging (text chat) ===


====Connecting quickly====
To get connected to Lojban chat use any of the following methods (your and others' messages will be available in all of them no matter which method you use).

People involved in Lojban community usually read each day's backlog and will answer your questions within several hours and often even within minutes.

====Telegram====
Using this method you will be able to read the history of the chat since the beginning of 2016.

# Install the free [https://telegram.org Telegram messenger] on your Apple, Android or your desktop device
# join main Lojban chat groups by following these links:
#*[https://telegram.me/joinchat/BLVsYz3hCF-CtYw0-2IkqQ Lojban], [https://telegram.me/joinchat/BLVsYz4hC9ulWahupDLovA ckule], [https://telegram.me/joinchat/BLVsYz20Boixl0xN-0TrPw jbosnu]
# Ask questions on Lojban in '''ckule''' group, talk in or about Lojban in '''Lojban''' group and talk only in Lojban in '''jbosnu''' group.

====Slack====
Using this method you will be able to read the history of the chat for the last ~7 days or so.
# Open https://slaka.herokuapp.com Submit your email and get an invite to http://lojban.slack.com to your e-mail inbox.
# Open http://lojban.slack.com
# Ask questions on Lojban in #ckule channel, talk in or about Lojban in #lojban channel and talk only in Lojban in #jbosnu channel.

====Direct web access====
Using this method you will be able to see messages that are sent only while you are connected.
#Navigate to [{{Webchat url kiwi}} the web-based IRC client (Kiwi)], choose a nickname you want yourself to be known as, and click "Start". Easy!
#Click on the channel you want (tabs on the top of the page), and type your text in the text bar at the bottom - the last line at the bottom of the chat page.
#Ask questions on Lojban in #ckule tab, talk in or about Lojban in #lojban tab and talk only in Lojban in #jbosnu tab.

You may alternately try [[Lojban_Live_Chat#Direct_web_access|other methods of connecting]].

=== Mailing lists ===
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The [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/topics lojban-beginners mailing list] is for questions about learning and understanding Lojban. You can subscribe to the list by sending a question to [mailto:lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com].

The general-purpose [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/topics lojban mailing list], which covers anything else related to Lojban, was founded in 1989, and has about 500 subscribers. You can subscribe to it by sending an email to [mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com lojban@googlegroups.com].

=== Social media ===
Lojban has a presence on many of the most popular web sites: [[Image:Facebook_Logo_Mini.svg|12px|link=http://facebook.com/groups/Lojban/]] [http://facebook.com/groups/Lojban/ Facebook], [[Image:Google plus icon.svg|12px|link=https://plus.google.com/communities/105661163321603750740]] [https://plus.google.com/communities/105661163321603750740 Google+], [[Image:reddit-12.png|12px|link=http://www.reddit.com/r/lojban/]] [http://www.reddit.com/r/lojban/ Reddit], [[Image:quora.png|12px|link=http://www.quora.com/Lojban]] [http://www.quora.com/Lojban Quora].

[http://jbotcan.org/ la jbotcan] is an informal bulletin board which hosts images and discussions in Lojban and English.

=== International Contacts ===

[[Image:yt higher logic.png|240x160px|an exposition by [[User:Guskant|la guskant]] in Japanese|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzqhNYCWKLo|thumb]]

{| class="wikitable"
!   !! Languages spoken
|-
| [[User:Selpahi|la selpa'i]] [mailto:seladwa@gmx.de seladwa@gmx.de] || English, German
|-
| [[User:Gleki|la gleki]] [mailto:bangu@lojban.org bangu@lojban.org] || English, Russian
|-
| [[User:Ilmen|la ilmen]] [mailto:ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com] || English, French
|-
| [[User:Tsani|la tsani]] [mailto:nictytan@gmail.com nictytan@gmail.com] || English, French
|-
| [[User:xorxes|la xorxes]] [mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com jjllambias@gmail.com] || English, Spanish
|-
| [[User:Guskant|la guskant]] [mailto:gusni.kantu@gmail.com gusni.kantu@gmail.com] || English, French, Chinese, Japanese, Esperanto
|-
| [[User:Remod|la remod]] [mailto:rdentato@gmail.com rdentato@gmail.com] || English, Italian
|}

=== [[Lojban around the world]] - other ways of communication ... ===

== What's next? ==
* Try reading Lojban [[te gerna la lojban|texts]]. Start with something shorter and easier such as "[[la .teris. po'u lo tirxu cu vitke zi'o le barda tcadu|Terry the Tiger]]" (audio is available) or "[[The Berenstain Bears and the Prize Pumpkin]]" ([http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/maltufa-1.1.html a parser suitable to those two texts]). When you're ready, move on to "[[le cmalu noltru|The Little Prince]]" (suitable parser: [http://lojban.github.io/ilmentufa/camxes.html camxes]) and "[http://selpahi.de/oz.html The Wonderful Wizard of Oz]" (suitable parser: [[maftufa]]).

* Try your hand at translating into Lojban, or write your own original texts: Poetry, prose, blogs, tweets, etc.
* Continue learning vocabulary using [[Lojbanic Software|memorization software]].
* Help expand the [http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/ dictionary] by translating Lojban words into other languages, or coin new compound words and add them.

===[[What's next?|More info ...]]===

----
<div style="font-size:90%;">This web site is dedicated to documenting Lojban and the activities of the Lojban-using community, and also serves as the official web site of the [[Logical Language Group]] (LLG), a non-profit organization founded in 1987 to promote the scientific study of the relationships between language, thought and human culture.</div>

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Welcome!1/en

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Ractu:

<div style="font-size: 1.5em; font-family: sans-serif">Lojban (pronounced [ˈloʒban]) is an experiment in human language – a constructed language based on formal logic.</div>

<div style="border:3px solid orange;width:calc(100%-20px);padding:5px;margin:8px;text-align:center;">
Want a StackExchange website for questions and answers about Lojban? Help us make it a reality.[https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/83133/jbobau-joi-jboceu-lojban-language-and-culture Register and press "Commit"!]</div>

==What is Lojban?==
[[Image:yt-lightning talk.png|240x160px|a «lightning talk» introduction to Lojban by Timo Paulssen|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdlGxgKt7nc|thumb]]
[[Image:yt-lesson in lojban i.png|240x160px|«Lessons in Lojban» by Dustin Lacewell|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZjSTUK3hFI|thumb]]

Lojban is a carefully constructed spoken language. It has been built for over 50 years by dozens of workers and hundreds of supporters.

*Lojban's grammar is simpler than of most natural languages, but complex in its own unique way. Lojban is an experiment in thought, as well: its users aim to see how its unique language structures affect thought and understanding.
*Lojban allows the expression of tiny nuances in emotion, using words called [[attitudinals]], which are essentially spoken emoticons.
*Lojban allows you to communicate concisely without unnecessary or undesired details. For example, you don't have to always think of what tense (past, present or future) to use in a verb when it's already clear from context.
*Lojban is machine parsable, which allows potential new explorations in the fields of artificial intelligence and machine translation.

*Lojban has a live community of speakers expanding its vocabulary day by day.
*Lojban is designed aiming at being neutral between cultures.
===Lojban means different things to different people===
* a linguistic curiosity - a test-bed for language experimentation
* a challenging way to expand their minds or discipline their thoughts
* a new perspective on languages
* an entertaining medium to communicate with friends or create art
* a domain for exploring the intersection of human language and software

What will Lojban mean for you?
===[[Presenting Lojban|More basic information ...]]===
{{clear}}
== Learning Lojban ==
=== Unofficial and supplemental resources ===
[[Image:yt-the perfect-lang.png|240x160px|«The Perfect Language», an introduction to Lojban by [https://twitter.com/WesleyWilson00 Wesley Wilson]|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIpn0OEpT40|thumb]]
[[Image:yt-ro lo maha datka.png|240x160px|«ro lo ma'a datka» and other Lojban songs by [[la guskant]]|link=https://vimeo.com/album/3152276|thumb]]
Different non-authoritative learning resources have been created. They are said to be more beginner-friendly.
* A set of [[pronunciation|pronunciation guides]]
* [https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Yrxt9gAtqA_oSDD76Toq8VLSZjjOxJ5rkKsxFs3Cw8E/pub?start=true&loop=false&delayms=5000 Lojban in simple phrases], an introduction (also available in [http://mw.lojban.org/images/d/d1/Lojban._How_to_quickly_create_sentences.pdf PDF])
* [[Lojban Wave Lessons|Wave Lessons]], a popular textbook
* [[The Crash Course (a draft)|"The Crash Course"]], a draft of a textbook
* [[la karda|la karda]], a rapid-fire overview of the grammar in small pieces

=== Official resources ===
* [http://mw.lojban.org/extensions/cll/ "The Complete Lojban Language", a reference grammar of Lojban]. This book will help those who already understand some Lojban. It's the most complete reference of Lojban language by far. It does not, however, teach vocabulary, style, or colloquial language. Please note that since the initial publication of the reference grammar, some language reforms such as [[How to use xorlo|xorlo]] have become widely adopted.

=== Dictionaries ===
* [http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/ la jbovlaste] is a prescriptive, editable, multilingual dictionary. It is considered by many to be the current de-facto standard dictionary of Lojban. Many other dictionaries and tools are based on it.
* [http://vlasisku.lojban.org/ la vlasisku] is an online English—Lojban dictionary, based on data of la jbovlaste; intended to be more user-friendly (note: it is only irregularily updated, la jbovlaste is more up-to-date).
* [https://lojban.herokuapp.com/ la sutysisku] is an online multilingual Lojban dictionary (including English) that also works offline. Updated at least once a month.
* [https://sites.google.com/site/slovlacukt/file-cabinet la slovlacukt], an alternative offline dictionary.
* [http://guskant.github.io/lojbo/stardict.html Stardict dictionaries in some languages] (usable with [http://goldendict.org/ GoldenDict], [https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dictionary-universal/id312088272?mt=8 Dictionary Universal], etc.)
* [http://guskant.github.io/lojbo/gismu-cmavo.html Multilingual gismu (root word) and cmavo (particle) lists in tsv and html formats]
* [[Word frequency lists|Word lists ordered by frequency of use]]

==== Related things ====
* An unofficial [[Simple gismu|list of simple definitions of gismu]]
* Example sentences at [http://tatoeba.org Tatoeba.org]

=== Software tools ===
* [http://www.memrise.com/courses/english/lojban/ Memrise.com] offers on-line Lojban vocabulary flashcards. [http://ankisrs.net/ Anki] is a downloadable alternative.
* [http://lojban.github.io/ilmentufa/camxes.html la camxes] is an automatic grammar of Lojban. It can help you to understand the structure and correctness of sentences.
* [http://lojban.lilyx.net/zmifanva/ A Lojban-to-English translator]. It is not precise, it can sometimes fail to correctly translate from English to Lojban or vice versa. It can be used to get at least some understanding of how Lojban works.

=== [[Learning materials. Secondary links|Other learning materials ...]] ===

== Connect with the community ==
[[Image:yt-bripre jikca 9.png|240x160px|«bripre jikca», a community literary vlog|link=https://vimeo.com/112783041|thumb]]
[[Image:yt-baho.png|240x160px|«ba'o», a song by [https://djemynai.bandcamp.com La Djemynai]|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG4jyHG-hv8|thumb]]

Lojban is spoken by a vibrant community, producing literature, music, and art, and discussing questions about language and thought. The web comic [https://www.xkcd.com/191/ xkcd] said that, if you spoke Lojban, you'd have to speak with Lojbanists. That may not be such a bad thing!

=== Instant messaging (text chat) ===


====Connecting quickly====
To get connected to Lojban chat use any of the following methods (your and others' messages will be available in all of them no matter which method you use).

People involved in Lojban community usually read each day's backlog and will answer your questions within several hours and often even within minutes.

====Telegram====
Using this method you will be able to read the history of the chat since the beginning of 2016.

# Install the free [https://telegram.org Telegram messenger] on your Apple, Android or your desktop device
# join main Lojban chat groups by following these links:
#*[https://telegram.me/joinchat/BLVsYz3hCF-CtYw0-2IkqQ Lojban], [https://telegram.me/joinchat/BLVsYz4hC9ulWahupDLovA ckule], [https://telegram.me/joinchat/BLVsYz20Boixl0xN-0TrPw jbosnu]
# Ask questions on Lojban in '''ckule''' group, talk in or about Lojban in '''Lojban''' group and talk only in Lojban in '''jbosnu''' group.

====Slack====
Using this method you will be able to read the history of the chat for the last ~7 days or so.
# Open https://slaka.herokuapp.com Submit your email and get an invite to http://lojban.slack.com to your e-mail inbox.
# Open http://lojban.slack.com
# Ask questions on Lojban in #ckule channel, talk in or about Lojban in #lojban channel and talk only in Lojban in #jbosnu channel.

====Direct web access====
Using this method you will be able to see messages that are sent only while you are connected.
#Navigate to [{{Webchat url kiwi}} the web-based IRC client (Kiwi)], choose a nickname you want yourself to be known as, and click "Start". Easy!
#Click on the channel you want (tabs on the top of the page), and type your text in the text bar at the bottom - the last line at the bottom of the chat page.
#Ask questions on Lojban in #ckule tab, talk in or about Lojban in #lojban tab and talk only in Lojban in #jbosnu tab.

You may alternately try [[Lojban_Live_Chat#Direct_web_access|other methods of connecting]].

=== Mailing lists ===
{{Quote box
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The [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/topics lojban-beginners mailing list] is for questions about learning and understanding Lojban. You can subscribe to the list by sending a question to [mailto:lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com].

The general-purpose [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/topics lojban mailing list], which covers anything else related to Lojban, was founded in 1989, and has about 500 subscribers. You can subscribe to it by sending an email to [mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com lojban@googlegroups.com].

=== Social media ===
Lojban has a presence on many of the most popular web sites: [[Image:Facebook_Logo_Mini.svg|12px|link=http://facebook.com/groups/Lojban/]] [http://facebook.com/groups/Lojban/ Facebook], [[Image:Google plus icon.svg|12px|link=https://plus.google.com/communities/105661163321603750740]] [https://plus.google.com/communities/105661163321603750740 Google+], [[Image:reddit-12.png|12px|link=http://www.reddit.com/r/lojban/]] [http://www.reddit.com/r/lojban/ Reddit], [[Image:quora.png|12px|link=http://www.quora.com/Lojban]] [http://www.quora.com/Lojban Quora].

[http://jbotcan.org/ la jbotcan] is an informal bulletin board which hosts images and discussions in Lojban and English.

=== International Contacts ===

[[Image:yt higher logic.png|240x160px|an exposition by [[User:Guskant|la guskant]] in Japanese|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzqhNYCWKLo|thumb]]

{| class="wikitable"
!   !! Languages spoken
|-
| [[User:Selpahi|la selpa'i]] [mailto:seladwa@gmx.de seladwa@gmx.de] || English, German
|-
| [[User:Gleki|la gleki]] [mailto:bangu@lojban.org bangu@lojban.org] || English, Russian
|-
| [[User:Ilmen|la ilmen]] [mailto:ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com] || English, French
|-
| [[User:Tsani|la tsani]] [mailto:nictytan@gmail.com nictytan@gmail.com] || English, French
|-
| [[User:xorxes|la xorxes]] [mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com jjllambias@gmail.com] || English, Spanish
|-
| [[User:Guskant|la guskant]] [mailto:gusni.kantu@gmail.com gusni.kantu@gmail.com] || English, French, Chinese, Japanese, Esperanto
|-
| [[User:Remod|la remod]] [mailto:rdentato@gmail.com rdentato@gmail.com] || English, Italian
|}

=== [[Lojban around the world]] - other ways of communication ... ===

== What's next? ==
* Try reading Lojban [[te gerna la lojban|texts]]. Start with something shorter and easier such as "[[la .teris. po'u lo tirxu cu vitke zi'o le barda tcadu|Terry the Tiger]]" (audio is available) or "[[The Berenstain Bears and the Prize Pumpkin]]" ([http://guskant.github.io/gerna_cipra/maltufa-1.1.html a parser suitable to those two texts]). When you're ready, move on to "[[le cmalu noltru|The Little Prince]]" (suitable parser: [http://lojban.github.io/ilmentufa/camxes.html camxes]) and "[http://selpahi.de/oz.html The Wonderful Wizard of Oz]" (suitable parser: [[maftufa]]).

* Try your hand at translating into Lojban, or write your own original texts: Poetry, prose, blogs, tweets, etc.
* Continue learning vocabulary using [[Lojbanic Software|memorization software]].
* Help expand the [http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/ dictionary] by translating Lojban words into other languages, or coin new compound words and add them.

===[[What's next?|More info ...]]===

----
<div style="font-size:90%;">This web site is dedicated to documenting Lojban and the activities of the Lojban-using community, and also serves as the official web site of the [[Logical Language Group]] (LLG), a non-profit organization founded in 1987 to promote the scientific study of the relationships between language, thought and human culture.</div>

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UserWiki:Ractu

2016-08-23T00:13:59Z

Ractu: import user wiki

se goi

2016-04-09T11:58:41Z

Ractu: Created page with "Assignments with '''goi''' are ambiguous in some cases, such as '''ko'a goi ko'e''': does it assign '''ko'a''' to '''ko'e''' or vice-versa? There is a way to solve this. Let '..."

Assignments with '''goi''' are ambiguous in some cases, such as '''ko'a goi ko'e''': does it assign '''ko'a''' to '''ko'e''' or vice-versa?
There is a way to solve this. Let '''goi''' mean ''{the left thing}, from now on referred to as {the right thing}'', and '''se goi''' the reverse. Ambiguity disappears. For example:

* '''ko'a goi ko'e''' – ''it-1, from now on referred to as it-2'';
* '''la .alis. se goi ti''' – ''Alice, which from now on refers to this thing here''.

One can extend this principle to all of GOI, with '''se''' swapping sides. For example, '''po''' = ''possessed by'' → '''se po''' = ''possessing'', and '''po'e''' = ''intrinsically possessed by'' → '''se po'e''' = ''intrinsically possessing''. (Actually, '''se pe''', '''se no'u''' and '''se po'u''' are not different from their non-'''se''' equivalents.)

Lojban around the world

2016-01-09T21:56:17Z

Ractu: /* Database of Lojbanists */

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==1. Chats==
Improve, learn, teach Lojban in chats: text or audio/video chats. The overall goal being to establish a broad level of conversational fluency in the Lojban community.

Here are the tools to be used as primary.
==== Skype Phone Group Topics ====
Read more: [[Skype|Skype and important issues of it]].

You can arrange a voice call (phone or VoIP) with another Lojban speaker at any skill level. A lot of people have expressed concern about the phone group with respect to the "well, what would we talk about?" issue. I'm pretty sure that discussions about that will take up a lot of space, so please see the [[Phone Group Topics|Phone Group Topics]] page.

We welcome anyone, regardless of expertise, physical location or monetary resources.

To join, just add people above to your Skype friends' list and ask who might be available to talk with you.

In an ideal universe, [[Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]]'d like to see people matched up with people of very different levels of ability, to spread the expertise around as quickly as possible, but I'm not hugely attached to that.

==== Lojban On The Phone ====
Please bear in mind, everyone, that collision avoidance is hard on the phone. Please become familiar with ta'a, re'i, be'e, je'e, ki'a and ke'o. Especially that last one. :-)

Here's a [[vlaselyle'u|phonetic alphabet]] for spelling words on the phone.

==== Other tools ====
*[https://plus.google.com/111885648105308968553/posts A group] in Google+ where you can videochat in real-time with other Lojbanists less popular tools:
*[[Mumble|Mumble]]: a vocal chatroom
* [http://cinchcast.com/ Cinch] is an audio-blogging service which allows its users to record directly to the website or phone in to record.
*direct browser-to-browser chats like [http://appear.in/ appear.in].

==== About Expertise ====
The "expertise" field in the members table is currently rather informal, and you are welcome to alter yours as you feel appropriate. However, [[User:Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]] and [[User:Nick Nicholas|Nick Nicholas]] have had their expertise certified in person. The reason behind such system is the option of making the phone group into a ranking system, similar to Chess rankings. In other words, if you want to be certified Expert level, you ask Robin or Nick to take some time to call you up and basically hammer away at you for an hour. You, in turn, can then certify people at rankings below Expert (or, possibly, at or below expert).

Note that any use of word lists in any such tests would be cheating.

{{See_also|Lojban Expertise Test}}

==2. Real life clubs==
Organize in real life Lojban clubs based on your physical location on the planet:
*[[southeast Michigan Lojban group|Southeast Michigan Lojban Group]] - A group of about half a dozen Lojban enthusiasts met at [[Matt Arnold|Matt Arnold]]'s house in Redford, Michigan about every two weeks (except when college is in session, because so many of them are undergrads, grad students, or teachers). Regular attendees include [[Bruce Webber|Bruce Webber]], TheRomp, Shaun Klein, Neil Eppstein, and Alex Martini. The group has been going in one form or another since March 2005.
*A Lojban group started at Grinnell College in Iowa, in October 2006.
*[[Jay Kominek|Jay Kominek]] is interested in starting one at the University of Colorado, let him know if you're in the area.
*[[Robin Lee Powell|Robin Lee Powell]] used to teach a class in the Silicon Valley area, in Northern California. He'd be willing to do so again if enough people were interested. I know two people here that would attend, but I'd be interested in other jbopre joining.
*Anagram is interested in informally gathering for a workshop of beginners in the Bakersfield, California area. Try contacting him via irc.freenode.net. My registered nick is Anagram, you may leave me a memo via memoserv.
*[[User:tsali|Arnt Richard Johansen]] will teach anyone in 'Trondheim, NO' who is interested. Contact him at arj ATT nvg dot org.
*There has been talk of some of us Southern Californian jbopre getting together in Pomona monthly. More info at [[SoCalLojbanists|SoCalLojbanists]].
* For Aussies in and around Sydney, I ([[la .djunias.]]) am looking to start a Lojban club near Macquarie University. If you're interested, please contact me!
* In Hong Kong, I ([[sorpa'as plat]]) am trying to start the [http://www.facebook.com/groups/lojbanhk Hong Kong Lojbanist Group]. [http://www.facebook.com/groups/cuhkoil/ Open Innovation Lab] once helped us organized a Lojban meetup.
Here are some of the places known to have a high concentration of Lojbanists, or some influential Lojbanists:
* Fairfax, Virginia
* New York, New York
* California
===Mark yourself on the world map===
For now a Google map is used to mark Lojbanists' location on the planet to figure out where new clubs can be organized.

[https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zsu6INucCzOM.kxkof_dbS3ZY&msa=0&ll=47.195778%2C27.590103&spn=0.254281%2C0.676346 Don't be shy to mark your location on the planet].

==3. Festivals==
Organize conferences and festivals. The only annual festival by far is [[jbonunsla]].

==Database of Lojbanists==
For fulfilling the first two goals:
{{mu|i ko jmina le cmene e lei tcila va'o le nu do se cinri le nu penmi loi drata jbopli vi le se xabju be do|Put your name and contact information here if you're interested in getting together with other Lojbanists in your area or talking via audio/video chat.}}

{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:left;"
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!lo cmene
!fluency
!lo gugde
!also speaks
!e-mail/id on Skype
!more precise location
! style="width: 15%;" |notes
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|la [[User:Bob LeChevalier|lojbab]] (lobja'a)
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:lojbab@lojban.org mrilu]
|Fairfax VA, near DC, and that's where [[Logfest|Logfest]] is always held
|a founder of the [[LLG]]. This language might not exist without him and the others he worked with to make Lojban public domain.
|-
|[[Nora LeChevalier|Nora LeChevalier]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:lojbab@lojban.org mrilu]
|Fairfax VA, near DC, and that's where [[Logfest|Logfest]] is always held
|[[lojbab]]'s wife, and has done huge amounts of work on Lojban, largely on the wordlists and software.

|-
|[[Jay Kominek|Jay Kominek]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
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|Boulder, Colorado
|

|-
|[[User:djunias|la .djunias.]]
|
|'''gugde'a'u''' ''(Australia)''
|
|
|Sydney
|I am looking to start a Lojban club near Macquarie University, Sydney. If you're interested, please contact me!

|-
|[[User:Nick Nicholas|Nick Nicholas]]
|
|'''gugde'a'u''' ''(Australia)''
|
|
|
|was the first fluent Lojban speaker (he insists that he was the second, but he's known to be excessively modest). He also has done a lot of Lojbanic writing, both writing in lojban and about it.
|-
|[[Pierre Abbat|.pier. abat.]] = Pierre Abbat
|medium
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|Francais
|[mailto:phma@phma.hn.org mrilu], skype: pierre.abbat
|North Carolina, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=412 EST]
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|-
|[[User:.kreig.daniyl.|.kreig.daniyl.]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
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|North Carolina
|lojbo pemci finti
|-
|[[User:John Cowan|John Cowan]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|
|New York City
|the author of the [[CLL|Complete Lojban Language]]. What more can you say?
|-
|[[User:xod|la xod]] = [[InventYourself|InventYourself]]
|Intermediate
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:xod@balvi.org mrilu]
|New York City, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]
|
|-
|Edward Blevins
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:thedward@barsoom.net mrilu]
|''(Austin, TX)'') / 512.796.6661
|
|-
|Adam Raizen
|
|'''gugde'ilu''' ''<nowiki>(Israel)</nowiki>''
|
|[mailto:araizen@softhome.net mrilu]
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|-
|[[Ivan Derzhanski|Ivan Derzhanski]]
|
|'''lo gugdebugu''' ''(Болгария)''
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|-
|[[User: Broca|Arnt Richard Johansen]] = [[User:tsali|tsali]] = Broca
|intermediate
|'''lo gugdenu'o''' ''(Norway)''
|
|[mailto:arj@nvg.org mrilu]
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=288 CET]
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|-
|Raphaël Poss
|
|'''lo gugdefuru''' ''(France)''
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|[mailto:r.poss@online.fr mrilu]
|
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|-
|[[User:.jexOm.|jexOm.]] = JérômeDesquilbet
|
|'''lo gugdefuru''' ''(France)''
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|[[User:Ilmen|la .ilmen.]]
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|'''lo gugdefuru''' ''(France)''
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|[[User:Mark Shoulson|Mark Shoulson]] aka '''clsn''', '''.mark.'''
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|
|in New Jersey
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|-
|[[Theodore Reed|Theodore Reed]] = rizen = bancus
|medium
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto: rizen@surreality.us mrilu], skype: tedreed
|Ontario, Southern California, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=865 PST]
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|[[User:John Clifford|John Clifford]] = [[pc]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
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|St. Louis, MO
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|-
|[[djin|djin]].meiz.
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:emaas@hotpop.com mrilu]
|Tidewater/Hampton Roads, VA
|
|-
|[[Robin Lee Powell]]
|expert
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org mrilu], skype: rlpowell
|Northern California, the Silicon Valley area, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=900 PST]
|[http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ his web site]. Yours truly, is the current webmaster of this site and the provider of the machine and bandwidth it is served from.
|-
|[[Xavier|xavier]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|
|school is in Rochester, NY, but himself is from Newton, MA.
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|stevo
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com mrilu]
|Cincinnati, OH
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|-
|[[Matt Arnold|Matt Arnold]] = '''epkat''' = Eppcott
|beginner
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:matt.mattarn@gmail.com mrilu], skype: matt_arnold
|Detroit/Ann Arbor, Michigan, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=77 EST]
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|[[User:Björn Gohla|Björn Gohla]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
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|http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~bjoern/
|-
|[[User:Lindar|Lindar Greenwood]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:lindarthebard@yahoo.com mrilu]
|Hollywood, California, willing to travel to (almost) any part of LA county for meetings.
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|-
|[[Jeremy Way|rem.klajis]]
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|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
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|Phoenixville, Chester County, pa
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|-
|la [[.alyn.post.|.alyn.post.]]
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|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
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|xabju lo la'o .gy. Rio Grande .gy. rirxe ma'arbi'i pe la'o .gy. New Mexico .gy.
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|Mike Fairhurst
|
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|[mailto:michaelrfairhurst@hotmail.com mrilu]
|looking for Lojbanists around Portland, Oregon
|or facebook me
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|Twitch
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|[mailto:sirrustemplar@madriver.com mrilu]
|learning lojban in Montpelier, Vermont
|would love to work with others
|-
|cizyprijev
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|[mailto:osiris_hades_deathland@hotmail.com mrilu]
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|https://twitter.com/#!/cizyprijev
|-
|[[James Cooke Brown|Dr. James Cooke Brown]]
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|lived in the US
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|Avital Oliver
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|'''gugde'ilu''' ''<nowiki>(Israel)</nowiki>''
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|[mailto:olivera@macs.biu.ac.il mrilu]
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|Alex (Sasha) Gontmakher
|
|'''gugde'ilu''' ''<nowiki>(Israel)</nowiki>''
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|[mailto:gsasha@cs.technion.ac.il mrilu]
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|-
|[[User:xorxes|Jorge Llambías]] aka '''la .xorxes.'''
|
|'''lo gugde'aru''' ''(Argentina)''
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|[mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com mrilu]
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|-
|[[User:Tsani|la tsani]]
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|'''lo gugdecu'a''' ''(Canada)''
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|Montreal
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|-
|[[Adam Lopresto|Adam Lopresto]] = Eimi = '''la xalbo'''
|expert
|'''lo gugdecu'a''' ''(Canada)''
|
|[mailto:adam@pubcrawler.org mrilu], skype: adamlopresto
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=605 CDT]
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|-
|[[User:nonong|Viktor Medrano]]
|
|'''lo gugdecu'a''' ''(Canada)''
|
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|.i mi zvati le lulus. zei daplu
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|-
|[[User:Gleki|la gleki]]
|
|'''lo gugderu'u''' ''(Россия)''
|русский
|
|
|основной контакт для русскоговорящих
|-
|[[Russian Lojban community|Русскоязычное сообщество]]
|
|'''lo gugderu'u''' ''(Россия)''
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|[[User:Cyril Slobin|Cyril Slobin]]
|
|'''lo gugderu'u''' ''(Россия)''
|русский
|[mailto:cyril@slobin.pp.ru mrilu]
|Москва
|http://slobin.pp.ru/english.html
|-
|Ark Balandin
|expert
|'''lo gugderu'u''' ''(Россия)''
|русский
|skype: ark.balandin
|GMT + 4
|
|-
|A. W. Tüting ([[.aulun.|.aulun.]])
|
|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')
|
|[mailto:Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de mrilu]
|
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|[[Timo Paulssen|Timo Paulssen]] = timonator
|
|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')
|Deutsch
|[mailto:timonator@perpetuum-immobile.de mrilu]
|
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|[[User:Björn Gohla|Björn Gohla]]
|
|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')
|
|[mailto:b.gohla@gmx.de mrilu]
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|-
|[[Philip Newton|Philip Newton]] = [[pne|pne]] = .filip.
|beginner
|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')
|
|[mailto:pne@writeme.com mrilu]
|Hamburg, [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=307 CEST]
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|Jens Gutzeit = [[.iens.|.iens.]]
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|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')
|
|[mailto:jens@jgutzeit.de mrilu]
|Berlin
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|-
|[[User:Iesk|.iesk.]]
|
|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')
|
|[mailto:pa.fae@gmx.de mrilu]
|berti dotygu'e
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|[[User:selpa'i|la selpa'i]]
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|'''lo gugdedu'e''' ''(Deutschland'')
|
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|Berlin
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|[[User:And Rosta|And Rosta]] = [[And Rosta|And Rosta]] = AndRosta
|
|'''lo gugdegubu''' ''(United Kingdom)''
|
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|London & Preston.
|No point meeting me if you want to practice Lojban conversation! I have never really got round to learning such conversationally vital stuff as gismu, BAI, tense, UI... That doesn't mean I'm not willing to try a bit, tho.
|-
|[[Colin Fine|Colin Fine]]
|
|'''lo gugdegubu''' ''(United Kingdom)''
|
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|-
|[[User:.evgenis.|Evgenii Sklyanin]] = la .evgenis.
|
|'''lo gugdegubu''' ''(United Kingdom)''
|
|[mailto:eks2@york.ac.uk mrilu]
|York
|earlier in St. Petersburg
|-
|[[.greg.|greg.]], Gryon, Gregory Dyke
|Beginner
|'''lo gugdecuxe''' ''(Switzerland)''
|
|[mailto:gvd@easy.com mrilu], [mailto: epfl@lojban.org mrilu]
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=945 CET]
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|Veijo Vilva (veion)
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|'''lo gugdefu'i''' ''(Suomi)''
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|[mailto:veijo.vilva@gmail.com mrilu]
|Porvoo/Borgå
|http://galactinus.net/vilva/
|-
|Martin Norbäck, G?org, norpan on irc
|beginner
|'''lo gugrsferie''' ''(Sweden)''
|
|[mailto:d95mback@dtek.chalmers.se mrilu]
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|[[ShaeErisson]]
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|'''lo gugrsferie''' ''(Sweden)''
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|[mailto:shae@ScannedInAvian.com mrilu]
|Boden
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|Roger Norling
|
|'''lo gugrsferie''' ''(Sweden)''
|
|[mailto:r_norling@bredband.net mrilu]
|Sundsvall
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|Marek Rogalski
|
|'''lo gugdepulu''' ''(Polska)''
|polska
|[mailto:mafikpl@gmail.com mrilu]
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|[[User:solri|Robin Turner]] aka '''la solri'''
|
|'''lo gugdeturu''' ''(Türkiye)''
|
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|finti la'oi [[L4B]]
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|[[User:durka42|Alex Burka]] aka '''la durka'''
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|español
|[mailto:lojban@alexburka.com mrilu]
|Philadelphia
|

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|[[Jordan DeLong|Jordan DeLong]]
|
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|
|[mailto:fracture@allusion.net mrilu]
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=75 CST]
|

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|[[selckiku|selckiku]] = Brett Douglas Williams = mungojelly
|expert
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|[mailto:selckiku@gmail.com mrilu], skype: selckiku
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]
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|[[User:Stephen Weeks|Stephen Weeks]] = Tene
|intermediate
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|[mailto:tene@allalone.org mrilu], skype: srweeks
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=220 MST]
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|[[Xavier|Steve Pomeroy]] = ?
|Beginner
|
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|[mailto:steve@staticfree.info mrilu]
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]
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|Kevin Reid = kpreid
|Intermediate
|
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|[mailto:kpreid@mac.com mrilu], skype: kpreid
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=179 EDT]
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|Alex Martini = aleks
|Beginner/Intermediate
|
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|[mailto:alexjm@umich.edu mrilu], skype: amartini51
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]
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|Jonathan Strickland = djanatyn
|Beginner/Intermediate
|
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|[mailto:djanatyn@gmail.com mrilu]
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=179 EDT]
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|William McMillian = Very_Bill
|Beginner
|
|
|[mailto: mrilu], skype: William McMillian
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=220 MDT]
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|[[User:.rem.klajis.|Remy Way]] = remklajis
|Beginner/Intermediate
|
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|[mailto:rem.klajis@gmail.com mrilu], skype: rem.klajis
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]
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|Gianmarco Molino = mercrutio
|Beginner
|
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|[mailto:mercrutio.undefined@gmail.com mrilu], skype: mercrutio.11235813
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=220 MDT]
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|Ashley P. = eclen
|Beginner
|
|
|[mailto:ashley.akakuro@gmail.com mrilu], skype: kiriel.ambar
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=43 EST]
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|[[User:Cein|cein]]
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|[[User:Michael Helsem|.maiky'elsym.]] = graywyvern
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|finti lo lojbo pemci
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|la [[rab.spir|rab.spir]]
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|finti lo [[jbozgiMusic|jbozgi]]
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|[[John Schock|John Schock]] = '''.djancak.'''
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|[[User:.aionys.|.aionys.]] = eyeonus
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|[[Athelstan]]
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|[[Colin Fine]]
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|[[Goran Topic|Goran Topic]]
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|[[.iusris.|.iusris.]]
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|[[jemna|John Leuner]]
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|[[jezrax|jezrax]]
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|[[User:Adam Cooper|komfo,amonan]] = Adam Cooper = adamgarrigus
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|[[User:.lidaniyl.|.lidaniyl.]]
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|[[LordBrain|LordBrain]]
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|[[marktillinghast|marktillinghast]]
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|[[User:PlasticRaven|Plastic Raven]]
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|[[User:skaryzgik|skaryzgik]] = Marjorie Scherf
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|[[tinkit|tinkit]]
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|Oren Robinson
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|普通话
|[mailto:get.oren@gmail.com mrilu]
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|Leonardo Molas
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|español
|[mailto:leos.molas@gmail.com mrilu]
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|rprije
|Intermediate
|
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|skype: robreim3
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/time/zone/china/beijing|UTC+8]
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|Brendan (Tang Wei), ahbrendan
|Beginner
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|[mailto:ahbrendan@gmail.com mrilu], skype: ahbrendan
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/time/zone/china/beijing|UTC+8]
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|Zilong Lee, lidzilyn.
|Beginner
|
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|[mailto:leezilong@outlook.com mrilu], skype: zhuanshulicao
|[http://www.timeanddate.com/time/zone/china/beijing|UTC+8]
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|[[User:Ramcinfo|la ramcinfo]], Dmitry Kourmyshov, mindszenty on irc
|beginner
|'''lo gugderu'u''' ''(Россия)''
|English
|[mailto:mantycore@gmail.com mrilu]
|St.Petersburg
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|[[User:mark.xafirkamp.|mark.xafirkamp]]
|panoce'i lo gismu .e xo lo cmavo ''(10% of gismu and ??? cmavo)''
|'''lo gugde'usu''' ''(USA)''
|'''lo glibau''' ''(English)'' '''mi milxe lo sanbau djuno''' ''(Español, pero solamente un poco)''
|
|Flagstaff, Arizona
|I'm interested in meeting any jbopre in Flagstaff and talking with technology/computer/programming-oriented jbopre around the world. .i mi nintadni lo jbobau .i mi na kakne lo nu tavla fo lo jbobau kei ku lo nu na ralte lo jbobau vlacku
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|[[User:Ractu|la .uakci]] = la ractu = la .ciuak. = Bruno Panasiewicz
|intermediate ~ advanced
|'''lo gugdepulu''' ''(Polska)''
|'''lo bangupulu''' ''(Polski)'', '''lo glibau''' ''(English)''
|[mailto:ciuak.prog@gmail.com mrilu], Skype: bruno.panasiewicz
|UTC+1 (Krakow)
|
|}

==Organizations==
===[[The Logical Language Group]]===
... and its affiliated organizations
==== Contacting The LLG by e-mail ====
You can contact the LLG by e-mail using our [http://www.lojban.org/llg/feedback.php our web-based e-mail form], or the list of e-mail addresses below.
*Web Master [mailto:webmaster@lojban.org webmaster@lojban.org]
*President [mailto:president@lojban.org president@lojban.org]
*Vice President [mailto:vp@lojban.org vp@lojban.org]
*Secretary/Treasurer [mailto:treasurer@lojban.org treasurer@lojban.org]
*General Inquiries [mailto:lojban@lojban.org lojban@lojban.org]
==== Contacting The LLG by postal mail ====
The Logical Language Group, Inc.

2904 Beau Lane

Fairfax, VA 22031, USA

(703) 385-0273

== Internet: The Lojban Online Community ==
The Lojban community has a vibrant and growing online presence. Only a portion of Lojban websites are listed here, as this community is growing and changing too fast to list them all.

===Forums===
This page contains a list of various forums in which people discuss Lojban or discuss in Lojban, in approximate order of popularity as far as the main community is aware.

Various Lojbanic forums are an important part of the lojban community.

===Learning websites===
[http://laxmahispajispaji.blogspot.com/ la laxma'i spaji spaji, the bilingual Lojban/English blog], can be helpful for learning both how various English idioms may be translated into Lojban, and how to use a wide range of Lojban cmavo (mainly in a narrative tone).

=== Less known mailing lists ===
Other than the primary mailing lists, the following special interest lists exist:
* [http://groups.google.com/group/jbofanva jbofanva] is a mailing list for translation projects.
* http://lojban.livejournal.com/
* [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-announcements/ The Lojban Announcements Mailing List] is for single posts on topics of general community interest.
All posts to this list are moderated, and all must include a description for where followup conversation should go. For example: "there are now Lojban flashcards on smart.fm; follow up discussion should go to the Beginners list" (but presumably with more detail). This is ''NOT'' a discussion list. The list does not set Reply-To, so you should set it to where you want followup discussion to go, if you know how.

The announcement list sends to just about every Lojban email list there is. People can also subscribe to it directly, if they want to get announcements of general community interest but do not want to be on the main mailing lists.

Anything likely to be of interest to large segments of the Lojban community is on topic. In particular, "I'm starting Lojbanic project X and need help/feedback" is what the list is primarily intended for.
* [http://groups.google.com/group/xedbig/ xedbig], AKA Hedwig, a private, moderated list with rules (you must be nice, you must speak in Lojban, and you may not criticise how other people speak Lojban)

* [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-pl/ lojban-pl], the Polish Lojban list
* [http://groups.google.com/group/budjo/ budjo], for discussion of Buddhism

* [http://groups.google.com/group/kasyjda/ kasyjda], for discussion of the chaos religions, such as Discordianism
* [http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list/ the bpfk mailing list], for language development issues

* [http://groups.google.com/group/xadni/ xadni], a largely unused list for discussion of the experience of having a body, or something like that
* lo jbocertu cu bau casnu vecu'u [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jbosnu/ la jbosnu] (nothing but spam these days)

* The [http://www.lojban.org/lists/jboske/ jboske], or lojbanic science list was used for extremely detailed discussions of technical and linguistic issues related to Lojban.
* [http://groups.google.com/group/jefnuz/ jefnuz] is a subscribe-and-don't-post list for receiving the weekly community news.
* [http://groups.google.com/group/snakarni/ snakarni] is a list for audio-bloggers, especially for CinchCast users.
* [http://groups.google.com/group/lojhbanistoj/ Loĵbanistoj] is a lojban mailing list where discussions occur in Esperanto
* [https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/lojban-zasni/ lojban-zasni] is a lojban mailing list for experimental grammars

===Social network groups===
*[[Image:Vkontakte_LOGO.jpg|15px|link=http://vk.com/menli.bangu]] [http://vk.com/menli.bangu Группа ВКонтакте] (rusko)
*[[Image:Facebook_Logo_Mini.svg|12px|link=http://facebook.com/groups/Lojban/]] http://facebook.com/groups/Lojban/ - the group in Facebook.
*[[Image:Google plus icon.svg|12px|link=https://plus.google.com/communities/105661163321603750740]] https://plus.google.com/communities/105661163321603750740 - the group in Google Plus.
*[[Image:quora.png|12px|link=http://www.quora.com/Lojban]] [http://www.quora.com/Lojban Quora].

===Microblogging===
As microblogging has become more popular among the internets as a whole, it's also started to be noticed in Lojbanistan.
* [http://identi.ca identi.ca], sometimes known as '''la .aidentikar.''' There was a Lojban group called !lojban.
* Twitter Lojbanic posts on [http://twitter.com/ Twitter] are sometimes tagged #lojban, but it's also fun to [http://search.twitter.com/search?q=lojban search for Lojban without the #] to see what random strangers are saying about us!
* [http://reddit.com/r/lojban/ Reddit] has a page where Lojbanic news are often published.
* [http://lojban.shapado.com/ Shapado] website has a Lojban page.

=== Other Forums ===
* [http://lojban.freeforums.net/ Lojban FreeForums]
* This wiki has a [http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=Special:WikiForum&forum=1 guestboard] for asking questions
* [[The Lojban MOO|The Lojban MOO]] is a type of MUD (a multi-user online text adventure game, sort of) that is fully bilingual in its command set.
* [[jboselkei]] is an online game of translation from English to Lojban, featuring rating calculation for users. If you don't know how this or that is translated to Lojban, ask it in jboselkei, and as the game proceeds, expect to see one or even more translations of your 'post' made by jboselkei players, with comments. If you are an experienced lojbanist, you will always find a couple or more challenging 'tough nuts' awaiting your translation and promising rating points. jboselkei first appeared in Beta form in mid March 2006, and was upgraded for appearance and usability in November 2006. Playing in jboselkei is very exciting; you are welcome to join!
* [http://www.lojban.org/story/story.pl The Lojbanic Interactive Story] is a web-based story writing forum. The story itself is all in Lojban. Anyone can add to it, please go contribute!
* [http://lojban.7.forumer.com/index.php Lojban.forumer]
* There has been a [http://community.livejournal.com/lojban/ LiveJournal community] for Lojban for a long time, though it's often sleepy.

=== Archives Of Past Discussions ===

==== Mailing List Archives ====

There are locally stored archives of a number of lists. Those lists are no longer updated.

* [http://www.lojban.org/lists/lojban-list The main Lojban mailing list]. To subscribe to the list via email (in case you don't want to use the Google Groups interface), write an email to: lojban+subscribe@googlegroups.com
* [http://www.lojban.org/lists/lojban-beginners The lojban-beginners list]. To subscribe via email, write to: lojban-beginners+subscribe@googlegroups.com
* [http://www.lojban.org/lists/lojban-es Lojban-es, the Spanish Lojban list]
* [http://www.lojban.org/lists/lojban-fr Lojban-fr, the French Lojban list]

* [http://www.lojban.org/lists/bpfk-announce The BPFK announcement list]

The Google Groups lists have complete, searchable archives stored in Google Groups itself.

In addition to this, for research purposes, there are as-complete-as-humanly-possible archives of all Google Groups lists stored as UNIX mail files on one of the lojban.org computers. If you need access to them, [mailto:secretary@lojban.org mail the LLG secretary].

==== IRC Logs ====

[http://lojban.org/resources/irclog/ Public logs of the lojbanic portions of the IRC channel] are available.

'''Note:''' the logs are filtered so that they contain only Lojbanic text. However, you might still be offended by the things discussed there. If you are, that's your problem, and the [[LLG|LLG]] explicitly disclaims responsibility for anything said on the IRC channel, including by members or officers of the [[LLG|LLG]].

Furthermore, no guarantee is made as to the correctness of the Lojban therein.

=== Lojbanic Websites ===
None of these sites are officially associated with the LLG in any way.
*http://jboselkei.lojban.org is an online game of translation from English to Lojban, featuring rating calculation for users. If you don't know how this or that is translated to Lojban, ask it in jboselkei, and as the game proceeds, expect to see one or even more translations of your 'post' made by jboselkei players, with comments. If you are an experienced lojbanist, you will always find a couple or more challenging 'tough nuts' awaiting your translation and promising rating points. jboselkei first appeared in Beta form in mid March 2006, and was upgraded for appearance and usability in November 2006. Playing in jboselkei is very exciting; you are welcome to join!
* [http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/ jbovlaste] - a lojbanic dictionary program from [[Jay Kominek]].
* [http://jbotcan.org/ jbotcan] -- an anonymous bulletin board.
* [http://jbo.wiktionary.org/wiki/ralju_ckupau uikipedias] -- Lojbanic Wikipedia.
* [http://www.reddit.com/r/lojban/ Reddit Lojban Group] -- a social news website.
* [http://groups.google.com/group/lojban Google Lojban Group]
* [[Official LLG Projects|The official LLG Projects page]]
* [http://www.nvg.org/~arj/dantimanti/ la danti manti] is [[User:tsali|tsali's]] very infrequently updated weblog.
* [http://satirist.org/lojban/cuvjbo/balfihe/ la roldei balfipmabru] is [[jezrax|jezrax's]] site.
* [http://purl.oclc.org/net/lojban la .jbosev.] "Lojban Dreams" of [[User:nonong|Viktor Medrano]].

==History==
* [[Lojban timeline|Lojban timeline]]
* [[Social history of Lojban|Social history of Lojban]]
* [[Generations, waves and epochs of Lojbanists]]
* [[Lojban awards]]
==Culture==
* [[Lojbanistani Culture|Lojbanistani Culture]]
* [[Ideologies and Philosophies about Lojban|Ideologies and Philosophies about Lojban]]

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